If they don't get this phone, my ten years as a customer ends 12/15/13. What a bunch of clowns.
Based on http://www.droid-life.com/2013/09/06/lg-nexus-5-round-up-a-beautiful-render-plus-everything-we-know/ it doesn't look good for working with Verizon. After 13 years with Verizon, my contract is up, my Nexus 4 is in the mail. As much as I like the Verizon coverage, T-Mobile's price and phone selection is so much nicer. Good luck to those that want a Nexus device on Verizon.
Yes, I saw this. Very disappointing. I will have to leave Verizon, also. Hopefully, someday, they will stop diverting money into pushing their sub par Droid line and focus on giving customers the one thing they're actually paying for, cellphone service. Until Verizon can start selling phones directly from the manufacturers, as is and on time, I will take my business elsewhere.
It is really sad and I hope that Verizon reads these forums. I am month by month now and if they do not carry the Nexus 5 then I too will be leaving. I am sure there are plenty of great phones on Verizon but I want the Nexus 5 and if they don't get it then I will be taking myself along with the other 4 people on my plan with me.
I am getting this phone gsm and unlocked and i am gone as well!! this two year agreement, huge monthly bills ($115 with the fees and taxes added on!!), taking away my unlimited data crap is for the birds. having to wait 2 years to get a new phone is insane!! i had to jump though a million hoops to get my broken galaxy nexus replaced...WHY!!!?? if i stay with your company as a provider what does it matter how many phones i get from you at contract price...am i not still on contract with you???? and the new edge program is CRAP as well...look it up and see that they are still robbing you! you can walk into any walmart and get straight talk for $45 a month unlimited everything and on a at&t tower (or t mobile) as well so you are bound to have coverage. i have been a verizon customer for 12 years now and i am gone! it will be worth the $250 fee to get out early since saving $70 per month on my phone bill won't take long to see that money back in my pocket!
I feel ya. I'm grandfathered in on unlimited data but have several other plans that are on contract (not for much longer though).
Despite having the best coverage with unlimited data, if they don't allow this device on their network, I just don't think I can continue to give them my money. I know that those who really want this phone are a significant minority but c'mon, how hard is to allow one phone, a phone that is the MOST IMPORTANT ANDROID PHONE AVAILABLE, to be purchased from Google play, that doesn't require a contract (if you already have service) and doesn't have VZW's bloat. I just don't see how this can negatively effect VZW so bad that say no to supporting this device. Really, most people on VZW don't really care about the Nexus nor do they know about it. These same people buy their devices at $200 and don't realize how heavily subsidized they are so when they see some phone from Google play for $350, they don't even consider it. The only people on VZW who would buy this phone are the Tech savvy that are more than likely on a plan with an expired contract. This is such a small segment of VZW's customer base.
I just saw 2 reports on VZW's numbers. 1st, the iPhone is outselling Android for the first time. Allowing the Nexus would only help bring back those Android users that went to T-Mobile (who is on fire right now, at least for what they are). Everyone I know comes to me for advice when it comes time to purchase a phone. VZW isn't giving much reason to recommend them. Other than coverage. Their phones are over branded, bloated, plans outrageous, data is a premium... If they would just step up and be the good guy, I would overlook the branding and bloat. Not the others though.
2nd, they gained 1.1(?) million new customers during Q3. Thats pretty good.. It could be better. I understand that VZW is a mega business but Google is THE mega business. Improve that relationship and VZW would be that much better.
I just want the Nexus 5 on VZW. I'll have the Nexus 5 but it looks like it'll be on T-Moble. >>comment removed<< You may think your doing the best thing for your business but your NOT! The customer is always right.
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"The only people on VZW who would buy this phone are the Tech savvy that are more than likely on a plan with an expired contract. This is such a small segment of VZW's customer base."
You just explained why this phone won't be coming to VZW. The only people jumping up and down about it are those on grandfathered unlimited. and VZW wants to get rid of them.
VZW also hate the interoperability of this phone.
Lol, what does VZW HAVE to do to get this phone on its network? Nothing. Just say yes. How will it hurt them? You agree that only a few people will want this phone on VZW so even if there is some secret, hidden VZW money sucker within the Nexus 5, it'll hardly effect them. If VZW had to go out of their way to get this phone, then I would COMPLETELY understand why they won't allow it. They will make no money from the device itself. I understand that this is not something any business based on subsidies and contracts would invest in. But they're NOT spending a dime and they'll have the opportunity to keep customers AND their families from leaving for another network that will support it. Again, not a huge number but they must be concerned about every penny because they apparently believe that allowing it will somehow cost them.
I don't think VZW will carry. I hope, but most certainly don't expect it. I just don't see how it could effect their business so negatively that they wouldn't allow the flagship of the company that develops the OS of nearly half of their mobile device sales, to run on their network.
It allows them to retain customers, sure. But those will mainly be the
month-to-month grandfathered unlimited customers that verizon has
explicitly said it is trying to convert, or boot. Supporting the N5 would
undermine that initiative. I hate it as much as you, but I can see why
verizon would choose not to support the n5. What gets me is why lg/google
didn't put in verizon frequencies anyway.
I can think of only two reasons:
1) There were some closed door negotiations between verizon/lg/google about not supporting verizon frequencies on N5, in exchange for support of future LG/google devices.
2) A verizon-only N5 device is in the works, and hasn't hit FCC yet.
I'm hoping for 2). Evidence in favor of this is the LG G2 device, on which the N5 is based, took a little longer to come to Verizon. But I wouldn't put it past Verizon to be doing 1).
I'm not trying to just keep this going on and on so sorry but I have unlimited, my family doesn't. They are on contact. VZW losses me, they lose my family. 5 devices/lines. Either way, yes it's not much. Yea, they gotta get that contact but why can't they be the nice guy and let that tiny bit have what they want.
I've heard it both ways. Had VZW frequencies, didn't have frequencies. Not just LTE but CDMA and that's why evleaks originally said it wasn't the Nexus 5 but the VZW LG G2. I think most are chalking that up to some filling error but again, I can't help but hold out a tiny bit of hope.... I sure wish I could make VZW hear me. And others like me. It would be great to hear some explanation that didn't have to do with money.... and such a small amount of it too.
I suppose this doesn't represent all the previous GNex owners but I'd imagine it applies to most. 2 years since the GNex was released and its contract time for those who bought it. 41% of those polled are leaving VZW.
I am very frustrated with Verizon. In some ways I have to thank them for making me an Android user because they did not have the iphone out of the gate and helped grow the android platform. However, once they picked up the iphone android become an afterthought. Apple and Verizon are perfect for each other...walled garden philosophy mixed with a good dose of greed. Verizon speeds are not the best but their coverage is undeniable. It is very hard for me to swith because of unlimited data and a corporate discount but I don't know if I can do a non-nexus phone. Unlike many I have no problem with how verizon handled the gnex, I am capable of flashing the latest greatest myself. I would be perfectly happy with a Nexus 5 on Verizon without timely carrier updates beacause I can do it myself...they just need to carry the **** phone already.
You said it. Perfect. Horrible customer service in stores (over the phone it's been great in my experience) but it's the unlimited and coverage that make this a difficult decision for me. I never understood the whole update thing. The few people who even care about the Nexus on VZW would also be the same who could the update via other means..
I have the G2 and development has just exploded in the last 2 days. Personally, the back is ugly to me. The fingerprint attractor plastic is just a horrible choice and the VZW branding on the top right front of the device is ridiculous but I'm able to live with and actually enjoy this thing. The Nexus is going to awesome. Better looks, better fit in hand and even more development. And... it's a Nexus. I'll buy it when it comes out. If I can live with T-Mobile or AT&T's coverage, goodbye VZW. G2 is great but I'll sell it, buy the Nexus 5 and put the remaining money on the new Nexus 10.... or whatever else they launch.. If any
I also agree. I am a software engineer, and I develop open source software. I can update the phone on my own using a linux machine. Plain and simple. So it's not a big deal regarding OTA updates. If they carry the phone, I will buy it. Anybody who wants a vanilla android OS will do the same. PLEASE VERIZON, allow the NEXUS 5 on your network. Don't worry about SW updates, we'll handle it ourselves.
So the Nexus 5 just released, and as rumored, not on Verizon and no plans for it either according to customer service for both Google and VZW..... 12+ years with VZW between my own plan and being on my parents' when I was younger. Never had any problems/issues with until now, VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY
My 12+ years with Verizon will
be coming to an end. Best carrier huh? I used to think so.
Add me to the list of people. If Verizon doesn't change it's ways, I'm going to be forced to find another carrier.
Giving Verizon the benefit of the doubt that they want so much control over software releases is so that they can provide better support doesn't do this issue enough justice. If they don't want to support customers on a nexus phone, that's fine, but you're cutting off your gadget crowd, the people willing to buy extra phones, I've got 13 months left on my current contract with a great phone and I'm willing to drop 350 right now to get a Nexus 5. Guess who wouldn't have to support my DNA for quite some time...
I've already ordered my Nexus.. Sundar said Google is going to be doing something with VZW in 2014. Lol I can see VZW purposely delaying a nexus release to allow all their recently released droid branded devices (complete with VZW boat) a chance to sell and allow time for all their no contract, unlimited users to jump ship. Then they release/allow the nexus 5. Sprint is supported. when I bought mine, there was no choice on which version you could buy so all the needed radios are present in one device. There was an FCC filling that listed VZW bands that was chalked up to an error at the FCC. I wonder at the possibility of dormant VZW radios that could be activated with a software update. I wouldn't put it past VZW to hold of and release this phone when it would suit them best. Just theory.
Here's the problem with Verizon not selling the Nexus 5 when the other 3 major carriers are selling it. There is a similarity between iPhone and the Nexus 5. The OS of each are controlled by the OS manufacturers, and updates come direct from them, not from Verizon. For Verizon to allow the iPhone on their network and not the Nexus 5 is essentially Verizon playing favorites. I'm not interested in who says what about something possible in 2014 with Verizon. Google wont put out another Nexus phone for another year. Verizon *****. I dished out full price for a Samsung Note II that in 6 months lost value of $500. I can't dish out this kind of cash, then have to wait 6 months for Verizon to upgrade my OS with the latest Android (yes, Samsung is at fault too). I have unlimited data, but most months I dont even go over 2GB, and when I do, I could've easily used my home wifi. So that of no consequence to me. I even have an 18% discount from my employer. Doesn't matter. I don't like my carrier limiting my device experience by controlling the OS, and what OS, I get. Goodbye Verizon. I'm heading to T-Mobile. As more people get away from Verizon, T-Mobile will grow, and with those new customers will expand their network to meet or exceed Verizon. I'm letting my dollars help set the future direction of carrier dominance. See ya!
Yea, if I were you that's what I'd do. That IS what I would have done a long time ago if I had the choice. Your reference to the "favorites" thing is right on point. There is only one OEM selling iOS so if Verizon wants a piece of that pie, they have to comply. Unfortunately, with so many Android OEMs, VZW can do as they please. Those of us who really need the unlimited data and coverage have to stay "interested" in what someone says about something possible in 2014. Sundar Pichai, VP at Google and head of Android may not be able to get the wonderful corporate weasel types at VZW to do something good but if anyone can, outside VZW, he just might be the one. So, for now, I'm gonna stay interested.
I have to say that I'm really disappointed by this as well, especially considering the selling price of it. I might just cancel my contract and head over to T-Mobile as well considering the fact that, T-Mobile does have the best phone plan currently. Not to mention that they coverage as gotten a lot better in recent year. I could really care less about Verizon coverage if they're going to be a pain about having phones that I doesn't have their preloaded crap on it....SHAME ON YOU VERIZON.....SHAME.
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I too will likely be moving on. Only 2 phone contracts, small potatoes for Verizon... but I can't accept their reasoning for not allowing unlocked devices.
All Verizon 4G phones are already unlocked. No to mention the FCC says all carriers have to unlock them anyway.
My apologies; let me be more clear... They won't activate my Nexus 5, Nexus
7 or Galaxy S4 Zoom, which all work on their network.
Nexus 5 does NOT support LTE Band 13. This is Verizon's main LTE frequency. The Glaxy 4S zoom doesn't support ANY of Verizon frequencies
Give me your input on this, maybe I'm reading something wrong....
It seems to say the "WTR1605L transceiver makes it possible for the Nexus 5
to run on Verizon, not to mention every other cellular network in the