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    Verizon Pre-Installed apps

    SouthpawKurt

      I think I can speak for everyone, when I say we would all like the ability to uninstall any and all apps. That would include the ones mandated by Verizon and Motorola. Not only is this just an issue of customer service, but it also goes toward functionality.

       

      Battery life on any and every smart phone is a constant battle. Manufacturer and provider mandated applications that force restart themselves are a burden on storage and battery life. If it's a matter of subsidy, I would rather pay more for any phone i buy in the future than to be hindered by apps running I will never ever use.

        • 1. Re: Verizon Pre-Installed apps
          Tidbits

           


          SouthpawKurt wrote:

          I think I can speak for everyone, when I say we would all like the ability to uninstall any and all apps. That would include the ones mandated by Verizon and Motorola. Not only is this just an issue of customer service, but it also goes toward functionality.

           

          Battery life on any and every smart phone is a constant battle. Manufacturer and provider mandated applications that force restart themselves are a burden on storage and battery life. If it's a matter of subsidy, I would rather pay more for any phone i buy in the future than to be hindered by apps running I will never ever use.


          Some are from Google as well.

           

          • 2. Re: Verizon Pre-Installed apps
            BarryH

            I second this motion...

            • 3. Re: Verizon Pre-Installed apps
              dirkbonn

              SouthpawKurt wrote:

              I think I can speak for everyone, when I say we would all like the ability to uninstall any and all apps. That would include the ones mandated by Verizon and Motorola. Not only is this just an issue of customer service, but it also goes toward functionality.

               

              Battery life on any and every smart phone is a constant battle. Manufacturer and provider mandated applications that force restart themselves are a burden on storage and battery life. If it's a matter of subsidy, I would rather pay more for any phone i buy in the future than to be hindered by apps running I will never ever use.


              What preinstalled apps force restart on your "X"?   I have had my "X" since launce day and none of the apps (my installs or factory installs) in my phone run until I run them.

              Also, just a small point, but the preinstalled apps on your phone help keep the price down.  The fact that they are there help subsidize the cost of the phone. Just a fact of life..... Advertising helps pay costs, just like network tv.

              • 4. Re: Verizon Pre-Installed apps
                TheGreatOne

                It's NOT only Motorola Droid phones!!  ALL android have pre-installed apps. Even T-mobile and AT&T android phones have preloaded apps on them!  I do agree that it is annoying that you can't remove em.

                • 5. Re: Verizon Pre-Installed apps
                  SouthpawKurt

                  You obviously didn't read what i wrote about my willingness to pay more to avoid subsidized phones with bloatware. Furthermore you have a conservative quote on your message, so you would think the idea of subsidies would be foolish to you. I want what i pay for and I am willing to pay for what i want. Computers from the major brands come with trial software that subsidizes their cost as well, but you can uninstall them.

                  • 6. Re: Verizon Pre-Installed apps
                    dirkbonn
                    I read your post and don't necessarily disagree with you. I was just stating a couple of facts as I understand them. However, I think you'll agree it would be tough for Verizon to market two Droid X's, one with pre installed apps, and a more expensive version without those same apps. Realistically, I think most people (myself included) would go for the less expensive version and just ignore those apps.

                    But I'm still curious, what pre installed apps force start themselves every time you turn on your phone?
                    • 7. Re: Verizon Pre-Installed apps
                      droid-geek

                      SouthpawKurt wrote:

                      You obviously didn't read what i wrote about my willingness to pay more to avoid subsidized phones with bloatware. Furthermore you have a conservative quote on your message, so you would think the idea of subsidies would be foolish to you. I want what i pay for and I am willing to pay for what i want. Computers from the major brands come with trial software that subsidizes their cost as well, but you can uninstall them.


                      Agreed.  I did full purchase price for mine.  Why should I have those applications installed that help allow the subsidization of the phones.  If they are going to be installed, then give me some extra cash off it also and keep it out of contract or remove the bloat-ware.

                      • 8. Re: Verizon Pre-Installed apps
                        PacoX

                        TBH preinstalled software on anything is nothing new. And its always a pain to get rid of. Anyone that has bought a PC that they did not build with their own hands should know. Its standard business practices to off set cost, you know like that free warranty you get.

                         

                        I don't have my phone yet, but I have seen on other websites that you can just hide them. Thats not so hard. You are not forced to by the phone, there are plenty of other capable Android devices out there. The fact that I can get a Droid X for the price of an iPhone, Evo, Incredible, Droid 2, etc and come out what I feel it the superior phone is enough to weather through a few pre-installed apps.

                        • 9. Re: Verizon Pre-Installed apps
                          droid-geek

                          PacoX wrote:

                          TBH preinstalled software on anything is nothing new. And its always a pain to get rid of. Anyone that has bought a PC that they did not build with their own hands should know. Its standard business practices to off set cost, you know like that free warranty you get.

                           

                          I don't have my phone yet, but I have seen on other websites that you can just hide them. Thats not so hard. You are not forced to by the phone, there are plenty of other capable Android devices out there. The fact that I can get a Droid X for the price of an iPhone, Evo, Incredible, Droid 2, etc and come out what I feel it the superior phone is enough to weather through a few pre-installed apps.


                          With your PC comparison you just shot yourself in the foot.  On every computer I have purchased those applications were EASILY removed through the ADD/REMOVE programs option.  No such ability on the phone.

                           

                          The point that several are making is, they install those applications because they have entered into an agreement with the company so that they get some moola, which allows them to reduce the subsidy prices.  I go out and pay $600 plus dollars for mine (and yes, I could have upgraded at the discounted price).  Why should I have those programs running in the background stealing resources - especially since I received no financial benefit from them, unlike the subsidized phones - does.  I have a Droix X on my left side, and the HTC Inc on the right.  The HTC with the 2.2 updated added several new programs in (VZ Navigator anyone - why can't this be downloaded from the market like other applications, or Space War, or Teeter, or My Verizon Mobile - which used to be able to be downloaded).  Bloatware because they can, then they want to lock it down so that you can't removed it.  Oh well, where there is a will there is a way.

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