Re: new iphone 5 + $70/month limited tiered 2gb/month plan = no hotspot ?? FCC rules violation?
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dimap52 wrote:

Verizon has a very inconsistent business model regarding tethering. Tablets on a 2 Gig data plan CAN tether/hotspot but smartphones CAN'T. Tethering has always been borked on my 2 Gig plan, whether 3G or 4G. I think it's outrageous that you can put a ONE gig data plan (for FIFTY DOLLARS no less) on a Share Everything plan

1 GB is a NOT $50. Unless your're admitting that minutes/texting and tethering are free? Fact is a tablet only plan 4 GB is $30. With a smartphone it's $70. So right there that shows you that minutes and texting are $40 value.

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Re: new iphone 5 + $70/month limited tiered 2gb/month plan = no hotspot ?? FCC rules violation?
gina7239
Specialist - Level 2

On the old plan you can do a combination teathering /reg data for example 7 for $70. This plan was not available to new customers to my understanding after that decision. Technically your kindov paying for the convience of hotspoting with the new plan the data being so much more. $50 for 1gig I think. Technically hotspotting is included so you are paying for it somewhere. $40 for mins then data more money. Verizon can do what they want.

Things change like unlimited customers can't upgrade without changeing there plan or atat saying no 3G FaceTime without changeing from unlimited or something to new plans. They do things for there interest although they say its for us.

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Re: new iphone 5 + $70/month limited tiered 2gb/month plan = no hotspot ?? FCC rules violation?
gina7239
Specialist - Level 2

That 7 for $70 is 3G I don't know 4g.

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Re: new iphone 5 + $70/month limited tiered 2gb/month plan = no hotspot ?? FCC rules violation?
dimap52
Specialist - Level 1

When I first bought my Razr M, USB tethering WORKED on the 2 Gig plan, but the Hotspot and BlueTooth did not. Now I got the JB update and the USB tethering was also blocked as were the other 2 pipes. And I still say it's outrageous that I can't tether on a 2 gig "classic" plan but I CAN on a 1 Gig or even a 300 Meg Share Everything plan, and even tablets can tether on their "classic" 2 Gig plans. Total inconsistency here. 

And if $50 on the Share Everything plan gets me UNL T&T along with 1 gig w/tethering, then just exactly what does that $40 "access fee" buy me? Seems to me the FCC should be looking into these dubious "bill pads" as well.

If that $50 buys me the whole enchilada then that "access fee" should either be a nominal $10 per line, or non-existent.

All these "Share Plans" do is net Verizon/AT&T an extra $30-$40 per month per user than what they were getting before.

Verizon can do whatever they want? I don't think so. Government regulation exists so that the public welfare is not abused and compromised in favor of rapacious financial expectations and demands of greedy investors.

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Re: new iphone 5 + $70/month limited tiered 2gb/month plan = no hotspot ?? FCC rules violation?
Tidbits
Legend

You are grandfathered into what you agreed to before.  If you are on an older plan then you are not part of the new agreement with the FCC.  It is like building a building before 1983 here in Hawaii.  Those buildings before 1983 do not have to have dual wall construction, but they also do not get the benefit of certain tax breaks.  One can always rebuild and then get those tax breaks. 

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Re: new iphone 5 + $70/month limited tiered 2gb/month plan = no hotspot ?? FCC rules violation?
electronicsguy

first of all I am a NEW customer. I signed up as a new verizon customer on oct 19. So how does it not apply to me?

secondly, the rule says you cannot block period. its doesn't talk anything about not blocking only on share plance. Verizon doesn't have the luxury to pick n choose what plans they can block it on and what they cannot.

Can a carrier say tomorrow - hey you know what - we'll offer the 911 call location only on share plans not other plans. even though FCC rules say it is a compulsory service, we'll pick n choose.

WIll you be ok with that?

ps: btw, any contract binding on another party is always favourable to the party which did not draft it in the first place. So if the rules don't explicitly say "all" plans, they do not rule it out either.

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Re: new iphone 5 + $70/month limited tiered 2gb/month plan = no hotspot ?? FCC rules violation?
electronicsguy

But mine is not any grandfathered plan. I became a new verizon customer on oct 19th.

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Re: new iphone 5 + $70/month limited tiered 2gb/month plan = no hotspot ?? FCC rules violation?
electronicsguy

"Verizon can do what they want." - unfortunately for you, they cannot. They have to follow the law, thankfully.

Seriously, whats up with some customers on this forum, constantly supporting illegal practices? Do you even know there exists something called federal agencies and laws and rules and regulations? corporations, however big, have to obey each and every letter of the law - not pick n choose.

I am really surprised by some people's attitude here. I am sure they are ok with anything the carriers say - hey your ETF is now $1000, or hey your minutes are now $100/minute extra. You can be ok with such practices, I am not. And I think the FCC sides with me and the rest of the community at large.

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Re: new iphone 5 + $70/month limited tiered 2gb/month plan = no hotspot ?? FCC rules violation?
Ann154
Community Leader
Community Leader

Have you called Verizon Wireless customer service to ask about the message you get? Since you have clarified you are on the Share Everything plan then your plan already included the mobile hotspot feature. It might just be a warning messages built into the phone to cover all the possible plans used on Verizon Wireless or other carriers.

I'm most definitely NOT a VZW employee. If a post answered your question, please mark it as the answer.

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Re: new iphone 5 + $70/month limited tiered 2gb/month plan = no hotspot ?? FCC rules violation?
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electronicsguy wrote:

But mine is not any grandfathered plan. I became a new verizon customer on oct 19th.

Then you should be on Share Everything which includes hotspot.