I am in the 5 % that does not want a data plan and feel I shouldn't have to be made to pay for one . I now have the LG Voyager and love it ... Which I had before you had to buy a data plan . Now if my Voyager quits working , I am forced to down grade my phone . I am so sad that Verizon has done this to me . I will no longer praise Verizon as I have done in the past . Will not renew my contract with them !!!! I have been a long time loyal customer ... Well no more !!!!!!
Cndykthy wrote:I am in the 5 % that does not want a data plan and feel I shouldn't have to be made to pay for one . I now have the LG Voyager and love it ... Which I had before you had to buy a data plan . Now if my Voyager quits working , I am forced to down grade my phone . I am so sad that Verizon has done this to me . I will no longer praise Verizon as I have done in the past . Will not renew my contract with them !!!! I have been a long time loyal customer ... Well no more !!!!!!
You will not be forced to downgrade your phone. Most feature phones no longer require the $10 data package. Or you can buy another new Voyager off eBay (new ones are still being sold).
Cndykthy wrote:I am in the 5 % that does not want a data plan and feel I shouldn't have to be made to pay for one . I now have the LG Voyager and love it ... Which I had before you had to buy a data plan . Now if my Voyager quits working , I am forced to down grade my phone . I am so sad that Verizon has done this to me . I will no longer praise Verizon as I have done in the past . Will not renew my contract with them !!!! I have been a long time loyal customer ... Well no more !!!!!!
Get ready to be bashed making a statment like this,the loyalists will be here to defend the Gods.but then again their is not a wireless povider out there that will activate a smartphone without a data plan,where i agree their is a lot of features of a smartphone other then browsing the web or streaming,like GPS or using it to move files,or even an MP3 player, that non Smartphones just cannot do well,but t Apple does offer an alternative the ipod touch.
Loyalists defending the gods ... I enjoyed that.
Pay a little visit to the Kin forum. There's someone on there who thought she was using Wi-Fi all month and got a $7,000 Verizon bill. (In her defense, the Kin does not have a good system for showing if a Wi-Fi connection is dropped and 3G is being used.) Next to impossible to use 3.5 GB on a Kin? Imagine what you could do with an iPhone or Android device.
lou0685 wrote:These mobile Data plans remind me of the dial up internet days before AOL first offered an unlimited internet package,i still say that yes they are a company in it to make a profit,but they continue to take advantage of the consumer,with shaddy billing practices,lets not forget that Verizon was hit with the 2 biggest fines in FCC history.so anyone defending Verizon,is like someone defending OJ Simpson,yes their service is superior, but does it warrent what they charge,i do not think so,only my opinion.
yes....this is EXACTLY like defending OJ.....LOL!!!!! to me it could NOT be more simple. if an iphone suits your needs and you don't want to pay for data, get an ipod touch. problem solved. i'm not that familiar with apple products, but are they not the same thing, just without the ability to call? so you get a cheap calling plan and a free dumbphone and buy a touch. as i mentioned, gerio mentioned, and another post mentioned, they have tried cheap or no data plans and it was learned that the customers simply can't be trusted to know how to use a smartphone without using data. they JUST tried in over the winter and it was a disaster....and those weren't even "no data" packages. i think they were $15 for very limited data and everyone STILL used more than they were allotted,
I do not think that there should be any distinction between smartphones and feature phones. Each one cell phone should have a price. The cell phone services should also have prices. Each customer should be able to choose any phone with any service that the phone can support.
Compare it to cable TV. You can choose the kind of set top box and also the programs.
There is no justification to tie hardware to MANDATORY services.
AlJordan wrote:I do not think that there should be any distinction between smartphones and feature phones. Each one cell phone should have a price. The cell phone services should also have prices. Each customer should be able to choose any phone with any service that the phone can support.
Compare it to cable TV. You can choose the kind of set top box and also the programs.
There is no justification to tie hardware to MANDATORY services.
and like cable you are required to buy channels you dont want. you get cable you get home shopping hcannel. you may not want it but you pay for it
your analogy holds no water
mdram4x4 wrote:
AlJordan wrote:I do not think that there should be any distinction between smartphones and feature phones. Each one cell phone should have a price. The cell phone services should also have prices. Each customer should be able to choose any phone with any service that the phone can support.
Compare it to cable TV. You can choose the kind of set top box and also the programs.
There is no justification to tie hardware to MANDATORY services.
and like cable you are required to buy channels you dont want. you get cable you get home shopping hcannel. you may not want it but you pay for it
your analogy holds no water
This is incorrect. I have already chose specific channels and also specific bundles.
AlJordan wrote:
mdram4x4 wrote:
AlJordan wrote:I do not think that there should be any distinction between smartphones and feature phones. Each one cell phone should have a price. The cell phone services should also have prices. Each customer should be able to choose any phone with any service that the phone can support.
Compare it to cable TV. You can choose the kind of set top box and also the programs.
There is no justification to tie hardware to MANDATORY services.
and like cable you are required to buy channels you dont want. you get cable you get home shopping hcannel. you may not want it but you pay for it
your analogy holds no water
This is incorrect. I have already chose specific channels and also specific bundles.
so you chose every individual channel you wanted and it happend to be the bundle they had with no extra channels?
verizon bundles thiers too, you want a smartphone you pay for data
you want cable plan x you pay for all cahnnels in it, dont want em doent watch em
TonioMiguel wrote:Yeah, I began thinking about it too but I still think people like myself who live with wifi do not need a data plan to even update our phones. Don't show your lack of understanding about data and wifi both are similar ways to accomplish the same thing being connected to the web.
In my case, I am planning on buying an iPad 2 wifi only which is sold by Apple not Verizon. Verizon has no need to sell a device without their services. Seriously!
Although as a consumer who works in a school no teacher or administrator needs daya plans if the majority of their use is in a wifi hotspot. Which that is my situation. Data plans are for people consistantly on the go. In all sincerity, my phone I have now should have wifi by now but Verzon and their constituents want the money they can get from data plans. If I had wifi my phone might have a few games or tools by now but it is not possible. Only Smartphones have wifi which is a scam just like a rose is a rose by any other name. Try the KinOneM and the KinTwoM are both feature phones that have Wi-Fi capability and no data package requirements.
I am not your idiot consumer but a concerned citizen that sees a loop hole that that been made that is truly unnecessary the same idea of faulty buttons on a phone which specifically have told Verizon to shut off the internet options on my texting phone for web access. All that needs to be done is simple programming which both Verizon and any other company does not want to do because they like to nickel and dime consumers rather than offering what we really want.
My solution is not a stupid Ipod touch but an iPad 2 much more powerful and a better deal. It just makes sense.
I still am going to see how we can break this ludicrous scam that all companies except the Mom and Pops that are actually making worth having a small data plan.
Find a few like minded individuals with a few BILLION to invest and start your own wireless company. I'm sure they would be lining up to get smartphones from you without a data package. But then again, perhaps when your own money is invested you'll realize that it doesn't make much business sense to do so. Good Luck.
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