Re: Slap in the face
ynggrsshppr91
Specialist - Level 2

All 4G LTE phones come GSM and LTE unlocked and have for about 3 years now...

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Re: Slap in the face
Peter_T
Enthusiast - Level 3

I know that all Verizon Wireless 4G LTE phones come with GSM and LTE unlocked.  But that's not the case with other U.S. wireless carriers like AT&T and T-Mobile.  Hence, I rather purchase an iPhone from Verizon Wireless than from AT&T Wireless or T-Mobile.

But I will no longer purchase any non-iPhone smartphones from Verizon since Verizon simply drags its heels in providing timely O.S. updates to users of their Window Phones and Android smartphones, compared to other wireless providers like AT&T and T-Mobile.

So the next Windows Phone I'll purchase will most likely be from AT&T Wireless (and not Verizon) since AT&T simply provides better support to their Windows Phone users.

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Re: Slap in the face
ynggrsshppr91
Specialist - Level 2

You may think so but how many ATT windows phones have Denim right now? Do you also comprehend that Verizon updates take longer because of the difference in the chip in the phone? Hence the reason not all phones can move between carriers.

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Re: Slap in the face
Peter_T
Enthusiast - Level 3

If you want to be an apologist for Verizon, go right ahead.  But I'm not buying it.

This isn't an isolated instance.  Verizon has always been slower than AT&T and T-Mobile in pushing out O.S. updates to existing customer phones, be it Windows Phones or Android phones.

Verizon has the resources to push out the updates faster, but it deliberately chooses not to.  So next time I'm in a market for a Windows Phone or Android smartphone, I'll look elsewhere.   I'll only stay with Verizon if I choose to upgrade to a new Apple iPhone.

But other cellular providers provide better and faster support to the alternate smartphone platforms (Android and Windows Phone).

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Re: Slap in the face
ynggrsshppr91
Specialist - Level 2

Good luck. See you back when they fail to update their phones or their update is garbage too.

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Re: Slap in the face
Peter_T
Enthusiast - Level 3

Who says I'm leaving?  If I choose an iPhone as my next smartphone, then I'll be sticking with Verizon for the reasons I already had stated.

(It's only if I decide to go with an Android phone (very unlikely) or a new Windows Phone (a possibility) that I'll leave Verizon.)

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Re: Slap in the face
47seijar
Specialist - Level 2

The op is right about the Icon, supposedly the "flagship" WP device, being last in line for the update. It just looks bad.

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Re: Slap in the face
Tepid
Contributor - Level 1

Those are the reasons they will never change peter, they don't have to cause people will just switch the device not the carrier. Trust me, money talks louder than any voice.

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Re: Slap in the face
lylone
Enthusiast - Level 2

I agree that it is a slap in the face for ICON users to have to wait for 8.1/Denim update.  Being someone who came from ATT, yes they do seem to update their "flagships" first, but still they are not any better with their timeliness of getting the updates pushed.  I have had the 900, 820 and 920 on ATT until coming to Verizon in July '14.  Trust me.. they are not any better with releasing updates and/or any promises of anything.

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Re: Slap in the face
spinr0k
Enthusiast - Level 2

Like everyone else I am just so mad at Verizon, I don't even feel like logging on here and dealing with the trolls.

Good news is I guess it is saving me money since I can't buy "the band" until I get 8.1, maybe MS will have the 2nd version of the band released by the time I get 8.1.

I am in talks with other couriers, something I had never dreamed of before this fiasco, taking the entire company to a new courier is looking more and more possible.

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