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Nokia Lumia - Here Comes Denim Firmware

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Just when you though getting Cyan released by Microsoft/Verizon was a nightmare; here comes Demin firmware set for release in Q4 2014.

Here are some of the features Denim will bring:

  • Speed: Never miss a moment with Lumia Camera and its fast camera startup and capture speeds. Take numerous photos with just milliseconds beyond shots.
  • High definition: Using Moment Capture, a long press of the camera button within the app automatically starts 4K-quality video recording at 24 frames per second. Each frame is of high image quality at 8.3 megapixels, allowing every single video frame to be selected and saved as a still image.
  • Intuitiveness: Get the best shot every time with Rich Capture, which simplifies picture-taking with auto HDR and Dynamic Flash. With Rich Capture, people can avoid the hassle adjusting camera settings; they can shoot first and edit and select the perfect shot later.
  • Quality: Capture high-quality smartphone images in low light with the latest-generation imaging algorithms.

Right now it looks like these features will be only for the Lumia Icon.

Source: Lumia Denim firmware announced by Microsoft, brings 4K-quality video and more | Windows Phone Centra...

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Since we are all still waiting for the Cyan update.  We will see the Denim update probably 2017?  I would ask Verizon but they don't like answer questions about update implementation.  Verizon.......Verizon......Verizon........ YOU S***!

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Denim will also bring voice activation of Cortana for the Lumia Icon.  If you hands are full or wet and your phone is across the room, you can simply say "Hey Cortana!" and it will be like pushing the search button.

Now, either Verizon is secretly working with Microsoft on the Denim update and they plan to skip the Cyan update alltogether, which would explain the long delay in the update, or Verizon is the WORST carrier on the planet for updates and we should all leave Verizon and go to AT&T where they know how to show Windows Phone users a bit of love.

However, if I'm mistaken and Verizon releases the Cyan update sometime within the next 4 months, I will most probably have already left and went back to AT&T before Verizon ever releases the Denim update!

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That would be awesome if VZW jumped straight to WP 8.1 Update 1 + Denim but all know VZW doesn't have the intelligence for that

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I like looking at the different regions, and seeing that almost every carrier in every part of the world has released the Cyan update excluding Verizon and T-mobile.  T-mobile is not as big a network as Verizon, and I would never use them.  But Verizon should be completely ashamed that they will be one of (if not THE) last carriers to push out the Cyan update.  I love my Windows Phone, and the ICON is the best one I've used yet (had 4 different ones).

Next week Apple will be having their big event, and then there will be IOS 8, which iPhone users will get at the same time as the rest of the world.  Android has several big reveals coming up the week after.  Microsoft just announced another update that will make 8.1 even better than it already is, and we still can't get any information on 8.1/Cyan.  I feel frustrated because even if I wanted to switch to AT&T right now, the best Nokia phone they currently have is over a year old and the newest two devices announced aren't even high end phones like the ICON.  So, if I want a high end phone on any carrier, it looks like I will have to switch to iPhone or Android.

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Availability in North America - Nokia

No what you are seeing is North America and AT&T is the only provider listing available.

MVO companies listed also say in testing.

This is just rehashing the same posts from above.

Verizon and others will provide the update *IF* they want to and when they want to.

Complaining as I stated above will do absolutely no good.

Complaints to the FCC or FTC or FBI or CIA or OSS or interpol cannot force Verizon to update your phone.

That also goes for Androids it just will take time. Be patient.

And trust me iOS devices have not always received great updates. More frequent but read the forum on all the complaints. And the funny thing is Verizon can do nothing about the issues since Apple pushes out the updates.

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Couldn't agree more.  I also have a Lumia ICON (upgraded from Lumia 928), and filed an FCC complaint against Verizon on this very subject.  Microsoft should also be going after Verizon.  I am proud of Microsoft for releasing so many major updates so quickly!  What a nice change (and much needed).  However, as a loyal Verizon customer for many years, I and many others are treated with no respect in regards to honoring these loyal customers.  There is no excuse for lack of release of Cyan - and now we have Denim right on it's heals.  MS is already working on GDR2, which would be AFTER Denim.  If they release an update every 3-6 months like this, we can expect to see them in about 10 years from Verizon, right?  Or are we all destined to settling for using developer preview releases because of Verizon's incompetence?

I smell a lawsuit in the making against Verizon and possibly T-Mobile if they don't' get their act together...  Just wondering who will start it (consumers, or Microsoft).  It's not in Microsoft's best interest to get on Verizon's bad side, but then again - sometimes that's what it takes to get something done nowadays!

Verizon is botching the chances of success for Windows Phone as an OS of choice in more ways than one...  Don't get me started on their sales reps bias/obsession with the iPhone 5c and iPhone 5s over any droid or Windows Phone.

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Can't completely agree with you here - complaining to the FCC can make a difference.  It is a method of getting broad exposure to a common complaint and problem from a company in the communications industry to the Federal Communications Commission.  Zero communication from the company to it's customers, and what appears to be a bias against supporting the Windows Phone platform.  I put in a complaint to the FCC and received a call from a higher up Verizon representative to talk about it.  Guess what?  I brought up that I was NOT alone, and he confirmed while we were talking that he was "perusing" the Verizon forums and couldn't believe the amount of chatter going on about this.  He was required to submit a report to the Verizon Executives regarding the FCC complaint based on our call and the complaint being made.  If you don't speak up, you won't be heard.

Is what Verizon is doing a true violation of the FCC rules?  Maybe.  Fact is, Verizon needs to answer to their customers and why they are remaining silent and not doing anything.  There could be more going on here, and could be illegal activities within the company.  What if they are found to be doing this intentionally for their own gain, or allegiance to another company (Apple, Google, etc.)?

Just saying - I complained to the FCC and got a response from Verizon directly.  If enough complain, maybe - just maybe, our voices will be heard and the execs at Verizon sitting on their big paychecks might grow a brain and do something about it.  We are the customer - and do not deserve to be locked into a 2 year contract with a company providing poor service regarding expected, widely publicized software updates that they are holding back.  At the very least, they can communicate a timeline, plan, and reason for the delays.

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Intelligence?  That would require functioning brain cells - which apparently are in short supply somewhere over in Verizon Executive land.  Short supply might be an overstatement.

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Can't completely agree with you here - complaining to the FCC can make a difference.  It is a method of getting broad exposure to a common complaint and problem from a company in the communications industry to the Federal Communications Commission.  Zero communication from the company to it's customers, and what appears to be a bias against supporting the Windows Phone platform.  I put in a complaint to the FCC and received a call from a higher up Verizon representative to talk about it.  Guess what?  I brought up that I was NOT alone, and he confirmed while we were talking that he was "perusing" the Verizon forums and couldn't believe the amount of chatter going on about this.  He was required to submit a report to the Verizon Executives regarding the FCC complaint based on our call and the complaint being made.  If you don't speak up, you won't be heard.

Is what Verizon is doing a true violation of the FCC rules?  Maybe.  Fact is, Verizon needs to answer to their customers and why they are remaining silent and not doing anything.  There could be more going on here, and could be illegal activities within the company.  What if they are found to be doing this intentionally for their own gain, or allegiance to another company (Apple, Google, etc.)?

Just saying - I complained to the FCC and got a response from Verizon directly.  If enough complain, maybe - just maybe, our voices will be heard and the execs at Verizon sitting on their big paychecks might grow a brain and do something about it.  We are the customer - and do not deserve to be locked into a 2 year contract with a company providing poor service regarding expected, widely publicized software updates that they are holding back.  At the very least, they can communicate a timeline, plan, and reason for the delays.

These complaints have been coming for the past 6 years....  It does NOTHING.  Manufacturers have ADMITTED they have more control than people believe to be.  Manufacturers touch all the code, and give carriers OPTIONS based on what the manufacturers are willing to work with.  If the manufacture doesn't want to give the option they don't have to.  See Apple as an example...

You will have to PROVE the update is completed and nothing is wrong with it.  You have to prove that there is incentive for carriers to not deliver the update.  One can argue manufacturers don't care for updating...  You'd pay the same regardless if  you keep your device for 6 years or 6 months.  Manufacturers on the other hand... Lose resources and money keeping their devices up to date and also don't make residual income.  One the device is sold that's all they make.  They need to keep people buying...

So unless you can PROVE Verizon has the update and can push it out without any adverse effects then the FCC will do nothing.  It's been proven for the past 6 years with all the lawsuits and FCC filings with Android devices.

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