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Re: Lumia Cyan with Windows Phone 8.1 roll-out starts today (7/15/2015)

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Actually, I think Blackberry is behind Windows in terms of priority - at least my local store had Windows phones to play with...but not a BB in sight.  Smiley Sad

Personally, i can wait for the update to 8.1 - major OS updates usually seem  to bring a whole new set of issues...I'm curious and interested to see what 8.1 looks like, but I can wait.  My Icon is working just fine right now, and I like it.  Why mess with it?

(Just look at the Kit Kat update threads and then decide how much you really want this update!  I know you really can't compare the two  - but it's still a major update and there is potential for things to go wrong.)

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Re: Lumia Cyan with Windows Phone 8.1 roll-out starts today (7/15/2015)

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There is always a chance something could go wrong, even AFTER Verizon tests the software, but a lot of people have been using the WP8.1 Developer Preview for months now with only minor problems that Microsoft has already fixed.  The remaining issues are linked to the lack of the Cyan firmware update.  So, there shouldn't be ANY problems if Verizon released this update.

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Re: Lumia Cyan with Windows Phone 8.1 roll-out starts today (7/15/2015)

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"I've had Verizon for a long time and I haven't ever noticed a lag between update announcement and Verizon's delivery."

Really?  Check out the problems I had with Big Red with my Samsung Galaxy Nexus back in 2012.  The SGN was supposed to be (and was actually advertised by Big Red) as a "pure Nexus" device and was supposed to get updates directly from Google.  Even Google advertised it as such.  When Big Red pulled the rug out from under Google's feet, Google dropped Verizon like a hot potatoe and will now now allow Verizon to have any "pure Nexus" devices.

https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/789576?start=0&tstart=0

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Re: Lumia Cyan with Windows Phone 8.1 roll-out starts today (7/15/2015)

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OK, Verizon. I've been with you for years and expected MUCH better. I waited and bought the Nokia Icon *after* the 8.1 Update *and* the Cyan update were both officially released. I bought the HTC 8X before because I liked the size and form factor and HTC quality. I bought the Nokia this time because it's the flagship Windows Phone model, made by Nokia which is now owned by Microsoft, and yet, here we are, approx. 4 months from the announcement of 8.1 and release to developers, more than a month after being made generally available, and yet *STILL* not available on my brand new Microsoft/Nokia Icon! Yet, just yesterday, to add insult to injury, if I had just waited, I could have an HTC One M8 with 8.1 ALREADY LOADED! How does that logic work? Microsoft you *OWN* Nokia and WROTE the OS and could CLEARLY have helped Verizon test out the new firmware and OS release on your OWN phone, yet, instead, you've partnered with HTC to use an already existing model, catered to their special hardware requirements vs. your own, and have now placed a competitors product in direct competition (oh wait, make that a STEP AHEAD in competition) with your own flagship device. I bought a Google Nexus 7 to be on the latest version of android and have not been disappointed with that choice as they support THEIR OWN devices *VERY* well with timely releases. That's definitely NOT the case with my Nokia Icon and the complete lack of LEADING support for it. And, of course, it's past my window of time to return the device and, if I DO try the the developer version, I'll have to jump through hoops in reverse just to get it back on a supported firmware so that I won't brick my phone trying to apply the Cyan update and final release of 8.1. How in the world does this make sense? You're doing more damage to your current user base than you are expanding it (which I assume is the aim of partnering with HTC to offer more options on the market) with this move.

Get the testing done and get it released ASAP! Or, at the very least, release both the Cyan firmware *and* what is intended to be the final released version the same way you did the developer preview.

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Re: Lumia Cyan with Windows Phone 8.1 roll-out starts today (7/15/2015)

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Unfortunately, Microsoft is not to blame here.  Microsoft sent ALL carriers the Cyan firmware update on July 15th for testing.  Microsoft has applied to have their firmware "pre-tested" with Verizon the way Apple does, but Verizon said "no."  Microsoft does not have the sales pull that Apple does, so they cannot "strong-arm" Verizon into the same pre-testing option.  However, we do.  We, as paying customers, can demand the same equal treatment for our dollars that Apple users receive.  We can file a complaint with the FCC stating such discrimination.  I have and have already received a call back from Verizon on the issue.  Join the fight.  Go to http://www.fcc.gov/complaint and file your complaint.  If we all band together, we can force Verizon to allow Microsoft the same treatment that Apple gets.

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Re: Lumia Cyan with Windows Phone 8.1 roll-out starts today (7/15/2015)

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Approval for 8.1 and approval for Cyan wouldn’t be the same. Cyan would need additional testing since it includes additional firmware.

The version of 8.1 found in the HTC One should be the same version you can get now using the dev preview program.

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Re: Lumia Cyan with Windows Phone 8.1 roll-out starts today (7/15/2015)

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Do you have any links to this pre-testing and Verizon declining? I’m wondering how you know all of this.

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Re: Lumia Cyan with Windows Phone 8.1 roll-out starts today (7/15/2015)

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That is confidential based on my FCC complaint.

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Re: Lumia Cyan with Windows Phone 8.1 roll-out starts today (7/15/2015)

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I have been using the Preview for Developers edition Windows Phone 8.1 beta for several months on my Nokia Lumia 928 with absolutely no problems.  Come on Verizon, I'm upgrading to an Icon in a few days and would like to have Windows Phone 8.1 stock on it.  There is no reason for a holdup on this.  You are just getting your customers upset.

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Re: Lumia Cyan with Windows Phone 8.1 roll-out starts today (7/15/2015)

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Just update to the Preview for Develops Beta edition of Windows Phone 8.1 and you will be set.  Cortana is the Bomb and you shouldn't have to wait to play with it.

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