Re: Lumia 950 and 950 XL (or some variant)
glennhalm
Enthusiast - Level 1

I too am a long time Verizon customer (22 years), but I will move all eight of my lines if they don't support the Lumia 950XL.  I use Windows, period.

Re: Lumia 950 and 950 XL (or some variant)
Tidbits
Legend

Cya later. It isn't happening any time soon.

Re: Lumia 950 and 950 XL (or some variant)
dexman
Community Leader
Community Leader

Microsoft never submitted the 950s for CDMA certification. The company only certified the phones for GSM and Microsoft later admitted that it was limiting the distribution of the 950s.

This is leading to speculation that the next iteration of Windows Mobile phones...which should be wholly designed by Microsoft...should be able to function on Verizon Wireless's network as long as Microsoft submits the phones for proper certification and pays all required licensing fees.

Re: Lumia 950 and 950 XL (or some variant)
47seijar
Specialist - Level 2

Instead of folks complaining that Verizon won't make a deal with Microsoft to get a CDMA version of the 950, I'd like to see Microsoft step up and make a Lumia 950 that includes ALL the bands necessary for both CDMA and GSM. Apple does it with the iPhone. Microsoft is the 800 lb. gorilla in the room, and if they're serious about revitalizing WP as a mobile platform they need to take the lead and act like they're serious. It's really not Verizon's job to advocate for a platform or brand. Verizon responds to NUMBERS, and right now Windows Phone doesn't have the numbers. So Microsoft should be pushing their new offerings across all carriers, attracting users, and thereby attracting developers.

Microsoft, the ball is in your court!

Re: Lumia 950 and 950 XL (or some variant)
FXi
Enthusiast - Level 2

I can't tell you how much misgiving I have.  I want to be hopeful as I've been with VZ for a few decades plus.  But maybe that's my mistake.  We had a literal FCC picture of the 1520 coming to VZ and that failed.  So what we get told it "might" be coming (zero official btw so it's all avoidable if the don't feel like it) and users sit and wait when there are devices they want to use right now?  This feels like some bait to keep me around, and if it looks like a duck...

If this were truly motiving VZ you'd have a deal in days.  MS and VZ are big kids they know how to sort this out with a few remote meetings, and a few internal memo's to manufacturing and distribution.  VZ has plenty of automated internal testing systems to insure this system works well and if they are not currently trying out Win 10 mobile preview well then they aren't ready and that still tells me not to stay.  They should know better, and they do.

Now if this is a supply side issue, MS needs to get themselves in gear too.  This isn't a single sided issue.  But if ATT is ready now, then these things have been in motion a while and it kind of says who is the more capable vendor.  These devices are going worldwide, so it's probably not a supply issue.  I really do enjoy VZ's expertise and service (all aspects of it).  But if the best you can do is deliver that service in a Yugo, while ATT is ready to service my Porsche right now, then that service has very limited value.  I can come back when your mechanics and your garage are capable of servicing the vehicle I want to use day to day.  Nothing says I can't switch back, but you'd have to make a pretty strong argument as to why I would pay you in the meantime to use a Yugo...

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Re: Lumia 950 and 950 XL (or some variant)
MobileGeek42
Newbie

Yes, take this with a small grain of salt. I have a transcript with a Verizon Wireless customer support person that made promises to me that never came to be. I called back after a week and spoke to someone for nearly an hour trying to resolve it. I was left with a supposed email address to continue work with someone on the issue. I'm sure the emails were sent straight to the trashcan.

I have no problem switching to AT&T. Verizon isn't all that anymore. AT&T is good enough and less expensive for me anyway.

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Re: Lumia 950 and 950 XL (or some variant)
MobileGeek42
Newbie

Microsoft did make the phone with CDMA, but have to disable it to avoid confusion. Verizon will not authorize the phones on their network, as they will not register the MEIDs, even if you go buy your own device at the Microsoft store.

 

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/10/18/verizon-reportedly-blocking-microsofts-new-lumia-950-and-950...

 

http://www.ibtimes.com/microsoft-lumia-950-lumia-950-xl-release-update-verizon-might-block-devices-i...

 

I've worked directly with Verizon Wireless in the past through partnerships with my prior companies. They are a bunch arrogant Sons-of-guns. I use to attend conferences regularly in San Diego some years ago when "GET IT NOW" was the thing. It was unreal how incredibly condescending they behaved towards people. Everything was about more for them and less for everyone else, even though everyone else was flipping 100% of the bill and effort to bring great things to folks on the phones. They were gonna get their cut, no matter what, for simply being them.

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Re: Lumia 950 and 950 XL (or some variant)
Tidbits
Legend

Again that's **bleep**... If Microsoft did whatever it took we'd have CDMA on the 950. Even if it was disabled by Microsoft it would have record of it by the FCC which there is none. Also Verizon can't block any device that supports their network regardless if they want it or not. Verizon even has to give them the keys to advanced calling...  Not to mention Verizon does NOT authenticate the way the article and vlogger claim. For the past 4+ years Verizon has authenticated like GSM devices do.

 

The to avoid confusion is a load of crock argument. If Microsoft wanted to avoid confusion they would have called WCDMA UMTS to avoid confusion which people think CDMA and WCDMA is the same technology.  See Apple 6S/6S+ specifications for example...

 

So can we stop spreading the FUD articles already meant to click bait.

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Re: Lumia 950 and 950 XL (or some variant)
OutlawFirebird1
Enthusiast - Level 3

Need unlocked phones on Verizon,  I'm done buying there branded phones that they stop supporting after a few months.

Re: Lumia 950 and 950 XL (or some variant)
andyjackoradam
Enthusiast - Level 2

Sorry if this is repeat info - but B&H Photo lists the 950 XL for pre-order and they are very explicit in excluding Verizon's bands from the compatibility list and excluding Verizon from the list of carriers (at least as of the date of this post).

I really don't think there's much question that these phones are not going to be usable on Verizon. I can hold on to my Icon until 1st quarter 2016 and see if MS pushes out a Surface phone, but if there's no solid evidence I don't know what I'll do.  Already tried going back to android - that sucked for the 2 weeks I gave it.

What a waste.

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