Re: GALAXY NEXUS WHERE ARE YOU!!!!

honors21
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Why would Google and Verizon put anything in writing to say they are against odds?
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Re: GALAXY NEXUS WHERE ARE YOU!!!!

Tidbits
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honors21 wrote:
Why would Google and Verizon put anything in writing to say they are against odds?

Someone went on the record from Google stating to that fact.  He isn't that high up.  With the NDA's these people have to say why isn't he fired if it was true, and if he did in fact leaked the information...  Think about it...

 

It has little to do with Wallet.  If it was about Wallet they could still release the phone without wallet installed.  They could further work on the deal to put wallet on the device from the market like the Nexus S...  There's more to it than just the wallet, and the Android version should be a dead give away.

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Re: GALAXY NEXUS WHERE ARE YOU!!!!

honors21
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techjunkie64
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Tidbits wrote:

Sorry as a programmer seeing that the LTE version is on 4.1, and the GSM version is at 4.0.1 shows there is more source code involved than Google Wallet.  Google wallet is easy to install and remove and can be downloaded and installed from the market(which you need a Sprint Nexus S to do) so a major revision going from 4.0.1 to 4.1 has NOTHING to do with Wallet.  Wallet isn't even part of the source code...



Technically 4.0 to 4.0.1 is a bug-fix revision, 4.0 to 4.1 is considered a minor revision, 4.0 to 5.0 would be a major revision...  I fully agree with you, however, about the speculation (over-hyped speculation even) on the wallet issue, and the fact that if it were simply wallet, it could be removed or added easily and would not warrant a hold-up in the release.

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Tidbits
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True but the way Google does their revisions 4.1 could very well be considered a major revision, but also a minor revision. It's so hard to say with them at times.
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droidsw
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Links were good reading, but these "news blogs" are not reputable news sources.

If I cared about the GN, I would speculate that after the flops that the Thunderbolt and Bionic were and the issues with the Razr, maybe VZW wants to avoid another high profile disappointment.

The comments sections of these links make me laugh. The threats and insults directed at VZW for making these impatient children wait in anticipation (and in their minds, unnecessarily) for this phone defy logic.
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Xandor
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It's kinda hard to think positive thoughts when nobody is saying anything about the phone...I, on the other hand, am trying to patiently wait, but wish Verzion would say something...nothing specific, but SOMEthing.

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Re: GALAXY NEXUS WHERE ARE YOU!!!!

rcschnoor
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techjunkie64 wrote:

Tidbits wrote:

Sorry as a programmer seeing that the LTE version is on 4.1, and the GSM version is at 4.0.1 shows there is more source code involved than Google Wallet.  Google wallet is easy to install and remove and can be downloaded and installed from the market(which you need a Sprint Nexus S to do) so a major revision going from 4.0.1 to 4.1 has NOTHING to do with Wallet.  Wallet isn't even part of the source code...



Technically 4.0 to 4.0.1 is a bug-fix revision, 4.0 to 4.1 is considered a minor revision, 4.0 to 5.0 would be a major revision...  I fully agree with you, however, about the speculation (over-hyped speculation even) on the wallet issue, and the fact that if it were simply wallet, it could be removed or added easily and would not warrant a hold-up in the release.



Going from 2.2(Froyo) to 2.3(Gingerbread) was considered a major revision. Why would going from 4.0 to 4.1 NOT be considered a major revision?

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Re: GALAXY NEXUS WHERE ARE YOU!!!!

21stNow
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This is just my guess, so please bear with me.  Android 2.2 to Android 2.3 was a major revision; that's why there was a name change from Froyo to Gingerbread.  Starting with Android 3.0, version names have been assigned to all updates in that same number grouping.  Android 3.0, 3.1, & 3.2 have all been named Honeycomb.  Now, Android 4.0 & 4.1 are both named Ice Cream Sandwich.  I think that Google is now reserving major UI and functionality changes for the full version changes and minor and maintenance updates are in the .x changes.

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techjunkie64
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The 2.2 to 2.3 was kind of a fluke, but normal Linux naming convention (and at the core, Android *is* Linux) is first number is major, meaning there can be compatibility issues if not compiled to the same c library for 1 thing, 2nd digit is revision, may contain new features, new functions etc, but is generally compatible with previous version, third digit is bug fix only, and should not include new functions (unless to address a bug) etc.  This, of course, is not written in stone, and often you will see new functions even with a bug-fix release, it really depends on the developer.

 

Personally, my pessimistic side is thinking Verizon is delaying the release to incorporate some sort of a locked/encrypted boot loader, or to patch the known vulnerabilities in Android to prevent modifying the device...  If that's the case this thing will be going back to Verizon faster than they can say boo.  There is absolutely no way I'm putting the timeliness of *my* updates in the hands of the carrier, *let alone* the worst-case scenario of Verizon and Samsung.

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