Did anyone receive two random updates, last night, called Soundback and Kickback?

[longplaypg]

Yes I also saw these last night.

I also reported several force close popups on the market when trying to remove these apps.

I finally gave up and booted to safe mode.

I still had force close popups on the market even in safe mode!

I got all the apps removed.

They auto installed again.

For the ones that installed again I confirmed the check mark to auto update was now removed.

So far they have not pushed back on as of yet.

Sadly my apps list looks a bit messed up as stated above where some programs are showing as not installed.

Today I am running in safe mode with stock apps to test some theories, but it looks like I will be doing a factory reset.

I will try to remember to report if those items are set to auto update on factory reset.
My goal will be to disable the auto updates ASAP so I can test on a factory stock install and report the problems I am having.

So far I have never encountered a support person that says I need these updates they are pushing in the market!

[NuDroidUsrr]

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longplaypg wrote:

Yes I also saw these last night.

I also reported several force close popups on the market when trying to remove these apps.

I finally gave up and booted to safe mode.

I still had force close popups on the market even in safe mode!

I got all the apps removed.

They auto installed again.

For the ones that installed again I confirmed the check mark to auto update was now removed.

So far they have not pushed back on as of yet.

Sadly my apps list looks a bit messed up as stated above where some programs are showing as not installed.

Today I am running in safe mode with stock apps to test some theories, but it looks like I will be doing a factory reset.

I will try to remember to report if those items are set to auto update on factory reset.
My goal will be to disable the auto updates ASAP so I can test on a factory stock install and report the problems I am having.

So far I have never encountered a support person that says I need these updates they are pushing in the market!

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  You can un-install Soundback and KickBack, but cannot remove Talkback. (Although if you visited the dentist, you might be able to). When I un-installed them, I marked them as SPAM, and gave them a feedback rating of 1, and listed that I had never authorized those apps to be installed.

  Hopefully, Verizon and Google get the hint that people do not want this stuff pushed to them, and for them to stop thinking that we are all mindless drones that will do whatever they want....

[longplaypg]

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NuDroidUsrr wrote:

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longplaypg wrote:

Yes I also saw these last night.

I also reported several force close popups on the market when trying to remove these apps.

I finally gave up and booted to safe mode.

I still had force close popups on the market even in safe mode!

I got all the apps removed.

They auto installed again.

For the ones that installed again I confirmed the check mark to auto update was now removed.

So far they have not pushed back on as of yet.

Sadly my apps list looks a bit messed up as stated above where some programs are showing as not installed.

Today I am running in safe mode with stock apps to test some theories, but it looks like I will be doing a factory reset.

I will try to remember to report if those items are set to auto update on factory reset.
My goal will be to disable the auto updates ASAP so I can test on a factory stock install and report the problems I am having.

So far I have never encountered a support person that says I need these updates they are pushing in the market!

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  You can un-install Soundback and KickBack, but cannot remove Talkback. (Although if you visited the dentist, you might be able to). When I un-installed them, I marked them as SPAM, and gave them a feedback rating of 1, and listed that I had never authorized those apps to be installed.

  Hopefully, Verizon and Google get the hint that people do not want this stuff pushed to them, and for them to stop thinking that we are all mindless drones that will do whatever they want....

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Stupid phantom buttons started acting up even in safe mode arggg.

Waiting for phone to restart...

I do agree that Talkback can not be un-installed and I like your idea of reporting them as spam! Sadly when I tried to un-install KickBack and Soundback that is when the force close happened right before you would normally see the feedback screen! This is why I might try a factory reset and  see if I can keep these 2 apps off for my testing since I can't remove them.

I was removing other items they had pre marked as auto update such as Bing on VZW, Gmail, and a few others and got the same force closes on the market.

Google Search does not offer un-install

Streetview has no options at all

My Kickback, Talkback, and Soundback say "this item is not available" even though its in my installed list and do not offer un-install
The rest are pretty much part of stock apps just notifying me there are updates.

Looks like my market is hosed at this point.

[longplaypg]

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NuDroidUsrr wrote:

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longplaypg wrote:

Yes I also saw these last night.

I also reported several force close popups on the market when trying to remove these apps.

I finally gave up and booted to safe mode.

I still had force close popups on the market even in safe mode!

I got all the apps removed.

They auto installed again.

For the ones that installed again I confirmed the check mark to auto update was now removed.

So far they have not pushed back on as of yet.

Sadly my apps list looks a bit messed up as stated above where some programs are showing as not installed.

Today I am running in safe mode with stock apps to test some theories, but it looks like I will be doing a factory reset.

I will try to remember to report if those items are set to auto update on factory reset.
My goal will be to disable the auto updates ASAP so I can test on a factory stock install and report the problems I am having.

So far I have never encountered a support person that says I need these updates they are pushing in the market!

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  You can un-install Soundback and KickBack, but cannot remove Talkback. (Although if you visited the dentist, you might be able to). When I un-installed them, I marked them as SPAM, and gave them a feedback rating of 1, and listed that I had never authorized those apps to be installed.

  Hopefully, Verizon and Google get the hint that people do not want this stuff pushed to them, and for them to stop thinking that we are all mindless drones that will do whatever they want....

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Stupid phantom buttons started acting up even in safe mode arggg.

Waiting for phone to restart...

I do agree that Talkback can not be un-installed and I like your idea of reporting them as spam! Sadly when I tried to un-install KickBack and Soundback that is when the force close happened right before you would normally see the feedback screen! This is why I might try a factory reset and  see if I can keep these 2 apps off for my testing since I can't remove them.

I was removing other items they had pre marked as auto update such as Bing on VZW, Gmail, and a few others and got the same force closes on the market.

Google Search does not offer un-install

Streetview has no options at all

My Kickback, Talkback, and Soundback say "this item is not available" even though its in my installed list and do not offer un-install
The rest are pretty much part of stock apps just notifying me there are updates.

Looks like my market is hosed at this point.

[longplaypg]

nice try to qoute someone and the forum complains i have bad html

I read the instructions at the bottom that it corrected some stuff and i should review the highlighted areas and correct them.

There are none and now i have a double posting.

Sorry for the double post

[cstephens]

longplaypg: not sure if this will help but go into your settings, manage apps and clear the data for the market. it helped me with the market after those updates. I was experiencing a forced Google sign-in screen that was locking up my market

[longplaypg]

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cstephens wrote:

longplaypg: not sure if this will help but go into your settings, manage apps and clear the data for the market. it helped me with the market after those updates. I was experiencing a forced Google sign-in screen that was locking up my market

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I had cleared the data for the market and I still got forced closed after removing an app. I had seen similar to you where I couldn't even open the market without a force close and clearing the data fixed that one. I shouldn't have had to to do it but clearly these phones are touchy.

Last night I decided it was a good time to clean up the mess and did a factory reset through the privacy area.

Everything reset fine.

I activated my phone.

It wanted to reset and I allowed it to.

The next boot I finished configuration...

I didn't allow backup assistant...

I entered my Google account information.

I skipped other mail setups for now ( usually I run 3 others besides gmail )

I allowed all 3 location services.

I deleted all of the widgets off the screens.

I put all of my apps on 1 screen and deleted the others I knew I would never use so that I didn't accidentally open them.

Visited the market, accepted the agreement, and it was the older market display.

I disabled the adds.

I checked my apps list and saw a few, but did not see how to keep them from auto updating.

Soundback, kickback, and talkback were NOT displayed!

I connected by Bluetooth headphones and started music player...

As always an hour later it just stopped playing and did the same behavior I posted in another topic here.

Visited the market to see how things had changed and I had to accept the agreement again. I thought that was odd.

It had auto check auto update on the items and I just left them for now.

Still was no soundback, kickbak, and talkback.

Left it go overnight and it did auto update the ones that were automatically checked and not by me.

It has been about 12 hours and still no kickback, soundback, or talkback update forced on me yet.

I shouldn't have had to do this in the first place, but so far things are behaving slightly different. I might reset again, but this time never accept the market agreement and never open it. I am curious if it will go out and update itself and then all the sudden start auto installing those other updates. This will make for a boring phone with no apps, but it seems that is the only way you can get support.

[cstephens]

I hope it all works for you. You did, pretty much, what I did after my factory reset sans disabling the auto updates. After those auto updates corrupted Fascinate #3, I called support and they sent me out Fascinate #4, last Thursday. I activated it and did the same things you described in your post... THIS TIME I DISABLED ALL AUTO updates and set up my emails, etc.

Since doing that the Market still found the updates for Soundback, Kickback and Talkback but this time, it's sitting in queue waiting for me to perform the manual update. Which I won't be performing.

Yesterday, one of my existing problems became an even bigger issue. I found that I was unable to maintain a signal to attempt a call  or connect my bluetooth to my vehicle. After two soft resets, the bluetooth connected but the signal was screwy all day. I missed calls and text messages. The only way they popped up were due to the repeated soft resets I performed all day yesterday.

As for the weak signal, I was sitting outside in my driveway, in open air space and fluctuated from two bars to no bars to a big blue circle with a line thru it. OUTSIDE!! This has NEVER BEEN THE CASE. I always had great signal strength outside, in my house... different story. Any way, I'm at a loss. Verizon is trying to say that my phone had device issues which is why they sent me a new one, but like I explained to them, no matter how great the hardware is if the software you push to the phone is garbage, a perfectly great piece of equipment becomes a wonderful paperweight!  Although, I don't believe their mantra of a "thoroughly tested" certified like new device that's better than a brand new one out the box... either.

[longplaypg]

Interesting I still do not see soundback, kickback, and talkback updates yet. It has recognized 3 items that were previously listed as not installed with no updates as 3 items not installed items that now have updates. I am pretty sure those updates probably existed before but something had to change in the market is my guess.

I do not have accessibility enabled at this time. I have refrained from searching for these 3 items in the market to see how long it takes for my phone to think it needs updating. This is allowing me to test some other issues and find conflicting results from my previous factory reset. I am not enjoying the fact that right now some parts of the phone are not behaving the same way after a 2nd factory reset. This leads me to think some of the updates may actually fix or break things. I guess its time for good notes and more wasted hours.

Luckily I have not had signal level issues lately in my areas. I also have not found my phone in airplane mode lately after I never put it there. There was a point where mine almost sounds like yours with the blue circle and line through it back when I was using ED04. I have not seen it on ED05 as of yet. Interesting enough it never displayed the airplane mode indicator, displayed the blue circle with a line through it, and if I visited the shutdown menu I could take it off airplane mode and get a signal again... I will pay closer attention next time it happens.

Yea I feel my exchange at day 31 of my contract for a certified like new device was a huge mistake on my part. I am seeing too many things that indicate bad software and nothing wrong with the actual hardware. I wish I had kept my original phone or even better canceled my contract back then. I bought the phone for emergencies and my business. Business has slowed and I shouldn't be wasting my valuable money and time on something the manufacturer and oem modifier are neglecting. My land line and DSL at home continue to function fine as always and if I am driving I don't need to be on the phone talking, emailing, or texting customers.

[longplaypg]

Interesting I still do not see soundback, kickback, and talkback updates yet. It has recognized 3 items that were previously listed as not installed with no updates as 3 items not installed items that now have updates. I am pretty sure those updates probably existed before but something had to change in the market is my guess.

I do not have accessibility enabled at this time. I have refrained from searching for these 3 items in the market to see how long it takes for my phone to think it needs updating. This is allowing me to test some other issues and find conflicting results from my previous factory reset. I am not enjoying the fact that right now some parts of the phone are not behaving the same way after a 2nd factory reset. This leads me to think some of the updates may actually fix or break things. I guess its time for good notes and more wasted hours.

Luckily I have not had signal level issues lately in my areas. I also have not found my phone in airplane mode lately after I never put it there. There was a point where mine almost sounds like yours with the blue circle and line through it back when I was using ED04. I have not seen it on ED05 as of yet. Interesting enough it never displayed the airplane mode indicator, displayed the blue circle with a line through it, and if I visited the shutdown menu I could take it off airplane mode and get a signal again... I will pay closer attention next time it happens.

Yea I feel my exchange at day 31 of my contract for a certified like new device was a huge mistake on my part. I am seeing too many things that indicate bad software and nothing wrong with the actual hardware. I wish I had kept my original phone or even better canceled my contract back then. I bought the phone for emergencies and my business. Business has slowed and I shouldn't be wasting my valuable money and time on something the manufacturer and oem modifier are neglecting. My land line and DSL at home continue to function fine as always and if I am driving I don't need to be on the phone talking, emailing, or texting customers.