Should Verizon provide a roll back option from the gingerbread update?
EN3
Enthusiast - Level 3
Simple and straightforward. Do you believe That verizon should provide a rollback option from the gingerbread update?

My vote would be Yes.

Here is some reasons why
1 First and foremost the update should not have been forced.
2 When making significant changes to the operating system like gingerbread has Motorola should have the decency to contact Droid owners And inform them of the changes they attend to make.
3 The update wasn't really necessary.
4 ethically I believe that verizon should provide a roll back option.
5 regardless of what the fine print says in the contract just because something is legal to do doesn't mean it is ethical to do.
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Re: Should Verizon provide a roll back option from the gingerbread update?
Ann154
Community Leader
Community Leader
No.

None of the Android phones on any of the carriers across the world have the ability to rollback to the previous version of the Android operating system.

I'm most definitely NOT a VZW employee. If a post answered your question, please mark it as the answer.

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Re: Should Verizon provide a roll back option from the gingerbread update?
EN3
Enthusiast - Level 3
Ann they do have the ability. Verizon and or Motorola would have to want to do it. It is simply a matter of reprogramming the bootloader rom with the spf image file of froyo. For obvious reasons both Verizon & Motorola reluctant to do this as of yet. Believe me it can be done they just have to choose to do so.

Another point over at the motorola forums a poster has stated that verizon has now made the gingerbread update optional. As in if you have a droid 2 that has not received the update. When you do it will give you an option to decline the update. It's true I only wish verizon had offered me the option. My droid 2 Has been significantly Impaired by the gingerbread change / update.
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Re: Should Verizon provide a roll back option from the gingerbread update?
breezex
Specialist - Level 3

No.

 

The Gingerbread update is basically a good update and many have no problems or at least just minor annoyances.  What Verizon should do is work diligently with those few having major issues to resolve their problems or provide a non-rollback alternative and I think they are doing this.  Also providing a rollback lets Verizon and Motorola off the hook too easily.

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Re: Should Verizon provide a roll back option from the gingerbread update?
Ann154
Community Leader
Community Leader

EN3 wrote:
Ann they do have the ability. Verizon and or Motorola would have to want to do it. It is simply a matter of reprogramming the bootloader rom with the spf image file of froyo. For obvious reasons both Verizon & Motorola reluctant to do this as of yet. Believe me it can be done they just have to choose to do so.

Another point over at the motorola forums a poster has stated that verizon has now made the gingerbread update optional. As in if you have a droid 2 that has not received the update. When you do it will give you an option to decline the update. It's true I only wish verizon had offered me the option. My droid 2 Has been significantly Impaired by the gingerbread change / update.
Those same "reprogramming the bootloader with the SPF (SBF) image file" also VOIDS the warranty. Any further discussion of that isn't permitted on this community per the Terms of Service. Enough said.

I'm most definitely NOT a VZW employee. If a post answered your question, please mark it as the answer.

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Re: Should Verizon provide a roll back option from the gingerbread update?
ENCOM
Enthusiast - Level 1

Not true Ann.  I called Verizon last Thursday and their Level 2 techs said if I could find a Verizon Direct store that still had Froyo in their computer system they could flash my phone back to the awesome OS Froyo.  Gingerbread is trouble.

 

Unfortunately, Froyo had already been removed from their system.   There is no warranty issues here.  Its just common decency.  EN3 is correct.

 

Yes, Froyo should be returned to those that want it.

 

Also, I couldn't care less about letting anyone off the hook easy.  I just want my awesome phone back.  I'll post my list of issues in another thread.

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Re: Should Verizon provide a roll back option from the gingerbread update?
breezex
Specialist - Level 3

What's so hard to understand?  If Verizon does it (reflashes the phone) there is no warranty issue.  But if you do it (and Verizon finds out) then the warranty is void and Verizon may refuse to provide technical support.

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Re: Should Verizon provide a roll back option from the gingerbread update?
droidsw
Specialist - Level 1

Talk about beating a dead horse.......

I was President of the GB Sux Club after it came out. At least a dozen bugs and glitches were created after I installed it.

But, you know what?

In the weeks that have followed, as apps have been updating (you should check the Market for available updates if you don't have them set to auto), and I check daily, something interesting has happened.

Most of the bugs and glitches have mysteriously gone away.

Is/was GB the "problem"? It wasn't perfect, but it wasn't the problem.

After GB, my phone did and does bizarre things from time to time that makes me wonder how they could be caused by a conflict the O.S. is having with a 3rd party app.
The 3G dropping issue notwithstanding.

There are some issues, yes. But, I contend apps are the main "problem".

Can going back to Froyo (if it were possible) do more harm than good, if 3rd party apps are updated for GB? That's above my pay grade.

I did a reset after GB and it solved nothing. I defiantly refused to un-install all apps, or reboot in Safe Mode.

I did NOTHING but let the developers update their apps and right now, my phone is largely bug and glitch free, again.

In politics, there was the saying, "It's the economy, stupid". In Android, "It's the apps, stupid". (Not speaking to anyone in this forum).

Yes, the evil empire has it right when it comes to the stranglehold they have on which apps are allowed on their tiny iphones.

But, you know what? If, OEMs did the same, the Android experience wouldn't be the frustrating situation it is at times, ESPECIALLY after EACH update.

In my opinion.

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Re: Should Verizon provide a roll back option from the gingerbread update?
EN3
Enthusiast - Level 3
Ann as others have said its not a problem as long as verizon dose it. You had implied that it was impossible in your first statement I was just telling you how they can do it.

Bottom line with all the other **bleep** put aside. I do comprehend for the vast majority they prefer gingerbread. I do not I was perfectly satisfied with my droid with froyo. I never asked for the upgrade nor did I want it. Now if it is true and verizon has now made this update optional than they owe it to their customers who were forced into this upgrade a option of rolling it back, or replacing their phone with another droid 2 with froyo as an operating system. In my opinion I am not asking for the impossible I am just simply asking to be treated with respect. So far verizon has not chosen to do so. I can only hope that they will change their mind only time will tell...
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Re: Should Verizon provide a roll back option from the gingerbread update?
droidsw
Specialist - Level 1
Don't shoot the messenger. Ann154 was just telling you the way it is.

I second the thought that updates should be optional. If we can use Windows 98 well into the next millennium on our pc, why not keep the same version of software on our phones?

VZW and Moto will argue that any update makes the phone better, eliminates issues and results in fewer calls to CS, reducing their costs.

Don't expect things to change. You might be one of the few that refuse to accept that and keeps on screeching in their ears, pushing for a change.

Good luck. It is what it is.

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