HTC Incredible and future 4G network

Johnniee
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Does any one know if the HTC Incredible will be compatible when Verizon's network upgrades to 4G?

Verizon has been installing fiber optic equipment in their cell sites, I think 4G is coming soon.

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tim600sl
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I'm not really sure, if it was some simple phone then I would definitely say no, but with Incredible there might be a different situation since it's an android phone, which mean that an update could make it 4G capable. But that's only my opinion, if anybody has a better explanation, please welcome.

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M91-30
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no, 4G requires a different radio technology, 3G radios cannot do 4G. we have CDMA, 4G is GSM.

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fezzik
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4G won't be for use on phones for 2 more years at the earliest and it won't be practically viable for 3.  It doesn't look like Verizon is going to worry about any intermediary systems like Wimax as Sprint did or HSPA+ like TMobile did (I think AT&T is still considering an HSPA+ system but as far as I know isn't committed to it yet). We would be on a Wimax system if we did go to an intermediary because it is a sort of expanded CDMA.  I imagine that Verizon being fairly comfortable right now on top and not likely to fall too far in the next 2-3 years is pretty comfortable with having a good stable fast 3G network that covers more area than any one else and is going to spend most of their system upgrade money on pushing LTE out here as quickly as possible while everyone else wastes money on intermediary technologies that so far are proving somewhat lackluster. 

 

All that being said no the Incredible will not be able to take advantage of LTE or even Wimax should they for some reason decide to go that route.  3G will be supported probably for atleast another 5 to 10 years after that as probably will 2G.  Considering LTE is a considerably different technology I would wager probably more like 5 than 10 but it will depend on how long it will take for people to get rid of their older tech for newer.  I know people with borderline antique cell phones still operating.  One girl I know has a phone that can't send or recieve texts.  I barely remember the last phone I had that couldn't do that or even when that was last an option.  I felt like asking if she realized how often free phones were available. 

 

So they will keep the system up for a while for late adopters but in all reality by the time you are replacing your incredible you probably still won't have an LTE option.  According to the current official timeline LTE will be available for smartphones first around the end of 2012 and only in major cities.  Late 2013 - Early 2014 for full blanketing.  Expect slightly longer time than that because of equipment shortages, and unexpected pitfalls.  We will all probably have at least one more phone on our new every 2 before whether or not it supports LTE is even a concern. 

 

 

 

OK I take it back your next phone will probably be LTE.  By the end of this year they expect to have LTE rolled out to major cities.  The plan is by the end of this year to have modems running LTE on the network.  By early 2012 they plan to have doubled their coverage and start rolling phones out and they will effectively blanket the country by 2013.  So yeah hopefully your next smartphone will be LTE and we will be living it up.  Probably by then X86 chips will be the norm maybe even AMD will get in on the game and we will have 2Ghz phones or so, possibly even multicore. 

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Johnniee
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I would think 4G would use a different hardware, not sure if this phone already has that capability. Funny is I called verizon, twice, 2 different sales rep, asking if this phone is compatible with 4G when it becomes available with verizon, and they both said yes. Anyone else called and got the same answer?

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Colnar
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Considering that the Incredible is not an LTE phone, but CDMA I highly doubt it wil work on the 4G network. I checked HTC's website and there is no mention of LTE for the incredible.

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M91-30
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Johnniee wrote:

I would think 4G would use a different hardware, not sure if this phone already has that capability. Funny is I called verizon, twice, 2 different sales rep, asking if this phone is compatible with 4G when it becomes available with verizon, and they both said yes. Anyone else called and got the same answer?


 


M91-30 wrote:

no, 4G requires a different radio technology, 3G radios cannot do 4G. we have CDMA, 4G is GSM.

 


there seems to be your answer.
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tim600sl
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What about the Evo? Is it GSM since it runs 4G and 3G? What makes you think that HTC can't update the radio freaqency on the incredible so it runs both 4G and 3G? Remember, it is not about hardware anymore.

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tim600sl
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So, best answer for this question would be that the Incredible very well MIGHT be able to support 4G.

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M91-30
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no, the best answer is it cannot support GSM, and thus cannot support LTE. the new LG phone and other GSM capable phones MIGHT have LTE radios hidden in the phone, but frequencies are set by a crystal, and cannot magically be changed, neither can radio trechnologies. the only other possibility is if HTC decides to change the radio in future incredibles.

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