cdawg wrote:The answer to the question..... seems "they" were listening..... relief soon....
http://phandroid.com/2009/11/03/google-iso-developers-for-app2sd/
Eh, you beat me to posting that link. Yes, Google is working on solving this problem right now, and the final solution may have some extra bells and whistles too, like being able to swap out SD cards with different sets of apps. This is the beauty of an open platform. And I think it will take you longer than you think to actually fill up the initial 256MB of flash storage.
We have a partial solution at this time to some of the Android storage woes. Remote file storage is available for the Android which emulates local storage for predominantly multimedia. We offer that service at Android Storage. We are working on technology and an app which will actually allow apps to be stored completely remote and then be “temped” to the phone via a stream and operated under a master app. That will be coming before spring. This changes the playing field and allows devices to fully take advantage of “virtually” unlimited app and storage memory with the improvements in 3G, 4G, and WIFI availability.
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As for the validity of this claim who knows but research on the goog shows that Kevin Dills name does show up on A LOT of droid related websites. Specifically the Android Eclair facebook page, facebook pages showing austin android meetups and a facebook page for Kevin Dill in Ausitin TX. Then finally a website called androidstorage.com which shows
Android Storage Blog
The Android Storage team consists of: Chris Churchwell, Somer Orbay, Lisa Kelly and Kevin Dill. No More Limits! Social Bookmarks ...
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http://blog.androidstorage.com/
Ahh mr Dill again...
I am excited for the amount of response from the google team.
Why didn't Google/Motorola just install 16GB onboard to begin with, instead of the mSD card approach? Then this wouldn't even be an issue. My preference would've been a device with 64GB hardwired onboard plus the mSD card slot. Now I have to seriously rethink if the Droid is for me.
Initially, I wanted an iPod touch for net access, apps, games, videos, and music when I traveled. So I waited a few months for the 3rd gen to see which "missing features" (camera, camcorder, mic, gps, compass, FM radio, WiFi n, mSD, replaceable battery) Apple would add. Lo and behold, none of them were added. How disappointing! So I moved on and started contemplating smartphones as my only other option to get the features I wanted. My major concern here was having to pay $30/mo for a data plan I really didn't need. WiFi is more than adequate for my needs.
The first phone to catch my attention was the Omnia 2. So I waited and waited and waited and waited until the Droid caught my attention. Then I discovered that the 16GB they kept hyping was in the form of a mSD card and that actual onboard RAM was a mere 256MB. How difficult is it to put 16-32-64GB onboard like Apple does?
Maybe it's time to rethink the touch again???
There is no reason to worry, my friend.
Apps, at most that I've ever seen come no larger than 8MB, and I assure you that you can put as much as you'd like to your hearts content, and not worry about it. Especially if the Verizon Droid has not only one but two processors (Which by the way is tremendously better than what the rest of us Android users have.)
There is rumored that next update, we'll be able to do Apps2SD. So since you guys have a huge SD card (That's also class 6), you'll have absolutely nothing to worry about.
there is presently no way to root the droid.
if you don't know what "root" means, google "g1 android root" and start reading.
they won't fix the limitation in a 2.x. it's a security issue. if you can dump apps on the SD card, then you can steal those apps (more easily). this problem has been around since android 1.0. there's no technical limitation to solving the problem. as someone mentioned, it is already solved through 3rd party software for other, non-motorola (rooted) devices.
there is currently no rooting solution for the droid. if and when there is, it will violate your warrantly. moreover, rooting your device is not for the faint of heart. if you are not a technical person with at least some linux base knowledge you may be overwhelmed. also, from the point you root onwards, you are now responsible for updating your OS as new releases come out. you can't / won't receive OTA updated from verzizon.
how much more could it add to the price of the phone to just double, or quadruple the amount of internal RAM to 512 or 1024MB? $10? $25? i just don't get it.
open source programs? just like the apple app store, the android market offers many pay applications. additionally, the google apps (maps, gmail, etc) are not free, even though you do not pay for them directly. verizon licenses use of them from google.
a common pattern for app developers is to provide a game stub that is downloaded / purchased from the market. the app then downloads its data files from the net, onto the SD card, when it is run for the first time. so most of the app ends up being on the SD card where it doesn't eat up the internal RAM. not all large apps do this however.
farble1670 wrote:a common pattern for app developers is to provide a game stub that is downloaded / purchased from the market. the app then downloads its data files from the net, onto the SD card, when it is run for the first time. so most of the app ends up being on the SD card where it doesn't eat up the internal RAM. not all large apps do this however.
Little to no Apps do that now, what are you talking about o.O?
It is rumoured however, for Google to implement Apps2SD very soon, so we don't have to worry about it.
supitsmike wrote:There is no reason to worry, my friend.
Apps, at most that I've ever seen come no larger than 8MB, and I assure you that you can put as much as you'd like to your hearts content, and not worry about it.
There's a reason for that - they know the limitations imposed by the small amount of storage available on these phones. Why develop an app over 300MB when they know it can't be loaded?
Good games won't take off until Google hurries the App2SD fix.
Have you seen all the awesome iPhone and iPod Touch games? Hardly any of them would fit on an Android phone. It is not uncommon for popular titles to easily exceed 100 MB. For example, the game Myst takes up a whopping 727MB.
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