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Just got the phone a few days ago and already found several annoying features the Driod (HTC and Motorola) does NOT have...and Verizon "device specialists" confirmed this.
-Support for VPN (minimal and some usless apps out there for this)
-Audiobook support
-Does not mark read email when i goto my email via my computer....doesnt show i've read them already on my phone.
-Unclear how upgrading memory cards will affect the Apps downloaded since they take up a lot of space as well.
Several Verizon "device specialists" at my store (Flemington, NJ) had no clue how to answer these questions.
Apple really has their stuff together...i have to give it to them!
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You should just stamp "Apple Fanboy" on your head.
The "Store" specialists are just salespeople. They know next to nothing about the Droid. The fact you would think they do makes you are naive at the least.
AudioBook support? I see no reason why that could not be downloaded with sufficient memory. On the Droid you can "build an app" for that.
Does not mark your computer's email read when you read it on the Droid? Of course it doesn't - even the Blackberry doesnt do that. I don't think you have a clue about what you're talking about here. And the IPhone has the worst email out of all the smartphones out there.
Unclear of how upgrading memory cards will work... well that's natural since the 32 doesn't exist yet but I can assure you that it's a simple task of backing up the card on the computer and then putting it on a new card.
How does Apple have their stuff together? Where does that comment come from? The IPhone is a sealed system - you can't even replace the battery.
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you forgot one thing, the droid always has that 3g symbol at the top. my iphone never did that and it gets annoying looking at it all the time.
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sroach23 wrote:you forgot one thing, the droid always has that 3g symbol at the top. my iphone never did that and it gets annoying looking at it all the time.
That's probably because AT&T's coverage is so crappy, you rarely get 3G. Seriously. The 3GS is supposed to have a "3G" in the top bar next to the signal strength.
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Not true.
On Saturday, my Droid encountered an iphone. It's wicked red eye glowed, and it shot lasers that KILLED the iphone - dead.
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keaco73 wrote:Just got the phone a few days ago and already found several annoying features the Driod (HTC and Motorola) does NOT have...and Verizon "device specialists" confirmed this.
-Support for VPN (minimal and some usless apps out there for this)
-Audiobook support
-Does not mark read email when i goto my email via my computer....doesnt show i've read them already on my phone.
-Unclear how upgrading memory cards will affect the Apps downloaded since they take up a lot of space as well.
Several Verizon "device specialists" at my store (Flemington, NJ) had no clue how to answer these questions.
Apple really has their stuff together...i have to give it to them!
First off, you need to put into perspective that Android OS is newer than the iphone OS and that devices are just starting to break out, particularly here in the US. Up until early October, only T-Mobile had an Android handset, and it's only been about a year and a half at that. I think you'll see Android app development take off. That's with respect to your first two questions.
If your phone and computer aren't acknowledging each other's mail activity, it doesn't sound like you're properly synced. Hard to help you without more information. Both the HTC and Motorola should be able to accomplish that.
Apps are local to your device. As of right now, you can't store them on your memory card, but expect that to change. Your memory card can be read by any PC so simply moving files is all you would need to do.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I don't like the way Apple treats your hardware purchase like a lease. I don't like the fact that warranty replacements are sometimes refurbs, though that seems to be a standard practice. But when you send it in for a battery replacement, the terms state that you should back it up with itunes because they can take your device, wipe it, and simply send you back a refurb with a new battery. **bleep** is that? You have no way of knowing how much the "functional" refurb has been abused by the previous owner. No thanks. I bought it, I own it, it's mine. Apple is abusing their position in the market, IMO, and the iphone isn't THAT great of a device.
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That and...the iPhone is definitely NOT the Droid killer!
Nobody's calling the Droid the iPhone killer. It doesn't need to be. Having just put up my iPhone 3GS on eBay, I'm a little bit more objective...
The Droid sucks because: it doesn't have exactly the same apps I used before, I can't take my DRM'd tv shows/movies from iTunes to the Droid, the slider design is gonna get dust buildup over some time, crappy camera software, compass usage is minimal in the bundled apps, and the OpenGL framework in Android is still a challenge for devs - so very few really cool 3D games.
The iPhone sucks because: no notifications, the apps are actually less diverse when you look at the android market (really, 100,000 apps in the app store and they still don't have a decent newsreader compared to android apps..??? and don't get me started on why there's a freaking huge Cydia repository), Apple/AT&T discourage you from jailbreaking/rooting the iPhone (where here nobody from VZW is discouraging rooting), the photo management is crap (mms or email huh? 3rd generation OS and those are the only two options for where to send a pic, even Nokia has more built-in with Shareonline, Apple FTL on this bigtime), homescreen lack of UI, fetch for everything but exchange and mobileme, push notifications are a hassle and aren't managed, no background pandora???, and using the bluetooth with a car that supports ipod/bluetooth media management just STINKS all around. The iPod mode is fighting with the bluetooth audio because the iPhone doesn't know it is suppose to act like an iPod - schizophrenic media playback behavior.
I'm going Droid, and the only thing I'm going to miss is the game developer support. You're not ever going to get Lucasarts to port Monkey Island to a Droid, unless a Droid somehow sells like 15 million more units in the next couple months. I'd love for that to happen but it's just not happening. There aren't even 30 million Android users out there yet. Serious game development publishers are putting more dollars behind the iPod/iPhone platform than they are the Nintendo DS or Sony PSP, with unique games. The Droid's got the guts, but no unified SDK.
Still, the Droid's got everything else. You can use Doubletwist to put non-DRM content on it. Movies look splendid (moreso than iPhone by a longshot), and it has specific car friendly mobility to it. You take a DVD, handbrake it to a 480p H.264 encoded mpeg-4 file, play it back on an iPhone vs the Droid and it's a pretty big difference.
Don't come on here and say the iPhone is better than Droid for anything but playing games. Even then, some stuff coming out on Android is going to deflate some of those claims.
Especially don't come here talking about how great the iPhone is with it being on AT&T's network. I have speedtested and speedtested the iPhone in Denver, SanFrancisco, and many places in between and the fastest I ever get is around 630 kbps, in the "small town" of Grand Junction. In the sticks I get 1200kbps with Verizon on the Droid. I also pay a little less than with AT&T thanks to my employer discount...
So hmm....pay less....get more....clearly that doesn't fit in with the original posters logic.
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I have just recieved the Droid myself. I really dont see what all the complaints are about. Dont get me wrong I agree its definatly not gonna be an iPhone killer and is not ever going to be. But it definatly out shines Blackberrys, windows mobile and any other smart phone out there. I've played with an Iphone(several of my friends have them) and own an iTouch(which is an iPhone without the phone or 3g). I must say the Droid comes pretty close.
First let me start off by saying the verizon employees at the store are far from experts on the phone. So I wouldnt ask them much. I got more accurate info by going online on various android forums.
Secondly I've never had any problem with my e-mail? Maybe yours isnt synced correctly. My yahoo mail marks what I have read on my phone read and deletes what I delete on my phone no problem. When I go on my PC everything is as it should be. The only problem I ever had was figuring how to get my yahoo mail to sync which was quickly solved when I looked online.
As for memory card. all you have to do is save your memory card content to your PC and switch in the 32 gig card(when it comes out) and sync your media back in. Personally 16 gigs is enough for me since apps barely take any space at all. On the iphone if you get the 32 gig or 16 gig your apps and music share the same memory. With the Droid its seperated which is better in my opinion.
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Damnyou83 wrote:I have just recieved the Droid myself. I really dont see what all the complaints are about. Dont get me wrong I agree its definatly not gonna be an iPhone killer and is not ever going to be. But it definatly out shines Blackberrys, windows mobile and any other smart phone out there. I've played with an Iphone(several of my friends have them) and own an iTouch(which is an iPhone without the phone or 3g). I must say the Droid comes pretty close.
First let me start off by saying the verizon employees at the store are far from experts on the phone. So I wouldnt ask them much. I got more accurate info by going online on various android forums.
Secondly I've never had any problem with my e-mail? Maybe yours isnt synced correctly. My yahoo mail marks what I have read on my phone read and deletes what I delete on my phone no problem. When I go on my PC everything is as it should be. The only problem I ever had was figuring how to get my yahoo mail to sync which was quickly solved when I looked online.
As for memory card. all you have to do is save your memory card content to your PC and switch in the 32 gig card(when it comes out) and sync your media back in. Personally 16 gigs is enough for me since apps barely take any space at all. On the iphone if you get the 32 gig or 16 gig your apps and music share the same memory. With the Droid its seperated which is better in my opinion.
I disagree with you on a few points. The storage situation on Android is **bleep**. Developers shouldn't have to abstract between the app memory and the data storage. With this setup, you're not going to get your Doom Resurrection, Myst, Need for Speed, or any of those cool things on the Droid unless the devs get more clever than they should have to.
Next off, aside from that, the Droid eats Apple's lunch. Android 2.0 is the first time I've seen a touch UI that has it all the way up the software stack. With WebOS I had to touch a couple of times, with TouchFlo3D it was never consistent because it wasn't all the way from the high level interface down to the kernel. Android's finally got "touchified" if you will all the way through its core. At least, I'm fooled into thinking so because of how quick the realtime response is. The kernel is also really tuned for intertia scrolling. Natural like, like the iPhone has, except it's managing tons of other stuff.
The other thing I really was pleasantly surprised with was when my battery ran low, and I could tap a button on the screen that shows me where the drain principally was since the last charge.
Android is the future, iPhone is the present. Apple has not shown anything that's really looking forward in the mobile space except a RAM & processor speed boost. iPhone OS is stagnating.