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      • 20. Re: Verizon Won't get more WP7 Devices until they have LTE
        haysouse

        Err, I looked at the LTE phones at a VZ store recently, it's pretty easy to turn off LTE.

        Didn't even need to go to a menu, there was apps/widgets.  It's such an easy thing to add and a no-brainer to provide that noone should be worried about being "forced" to use LTE.

         

        I don't doubt the 5 hr battery life on the Rezound but that's not really relevant unless you plan to use it as a webserver or something.

         

        And o yea, you can turn off LTE if you need it to last longer.

        • 21. Re: Verizon Won't get more WP7 Devices until they have LTE
          hopmedic

          There are plenty of LTE phones where it can NOT be turned off. 

           

          What does Apple have to do with it?  Well, VZW won't take on a WP without LTE now, but iPhone without it is fine? 

          • 22. Re: Verizon Won't get more WP7 Devices until they have LTE
            chinch

            hopmedic wrote:

            There are plenty of LTE phones where it can NOT be turned off. 

             

            What does Apple have to do with it?  Well, VZW won't take on a WP without LTE now, but iPhone without it is fine? 



            It's a moot point if LTE can be turned off or that iPhone has no LTE.

             

            I have no doubt Verizon & MS have have clearly hashed out their requirements & roadmap with WP7.... perhaps as early back as when MS Kin'd the KIN phones in haste (maybe not in haste but to make a point and withdraw "windows phone" branding from VZW channel).

             

            Verizon was NEVER committing to WP7 seriously until LTE ships and MS knew that LTE support would not be until Gen2/2012 .... they knew this long before WP7 shipped in the usa 11/2010 due to chipset support alone!!!!!

             

            Verizon should have had a better "stopgap" or v1 phone than the HTC Trophy but that is for another topic.

             

            Verizon is brutal and anti-consumer as a result WP7 users must wait out and hope for the Nokia Ace/900 LTE it seems, perhaps shown at CES.

            • 23. Re: Verizon Won't get more WP7 Devices until they have LTE
              haysouse

              The Charge, Bionic, Razr, Rezound, Galaxy Nexus can all turn off LTE.

              What else is there?  I didn't bother to look at the junk like the Stratosphere or the Revolution.  But that's plenty of options with LTE "optional".

               

              Apple can release a 3G phone b/c Apple users don't know specs in the first place.  Apple can release a 2G phone and they'll still buy it.

               

              As other threads here mention, VZ surveys with customers say that most people won't buy a 3G WP7.  Android and W users tend to be more computer literate and demand respectable hw, especially at the same price points.  Droid Charge is free online, as a reference, and the Galaxy Nexus is 199.99.  Another 3G WP7 probably has no market potential.  Even 4G Androids like Charge and the dual core Bionic are just about done by now.

              • 24. Re: Verizon Won't get more WP7 Devices until they have LTE
                primortal

                VZ surveys with customers say that most people won't buy a 3G WP7

                What is this survey VZ speaks of?   Was this a survey loaded with a precursor that 3G is a lot slower than LTE than ask would you prefer 3G WP7 phone or an LTE one which would be faster?

                 

                Doesn't LTE phones fall back to 3G (or lesser) when LTE isn't available?  So people who have LTE phones in an area that has limited or no LTE coverage is going to get a sour taste when the phone data connectivity is slow as molasses.

                • 25. Re: Verizon Won't get more WP7 Devices until they have LTE
                  Mafdude

                  Well if the rumors turn out to be true (VZN turned down all LTE devices from Microsoft), and their spokeshole spouted they "wouldn't entertain" any non-LTE windows Phone devices, they are a bunch of lying SOB's...

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