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      • 40. Re: Why don't people like iPhones?
        AZSALUKI

        iphone sales are insane so i would never say people don't like iphones. what you see are the "fanboys" (on both sides....apple and android). those are the annoying folks. i say to each their own. i prefer android. i recommend iphone to my family members because i find it much more simple and easy to use. both have their pros and cons. thiat being said, i do LOVE the new samsung ad as it shows the type of fanboys that annoy us (again, there are fanboys on both sides):

         

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h5JSojJN3Y

         

        it's a brilliant ad if you ask me.....lol...."dude you're a barista."

        • 41. Re: Why don't people like iPhones?
          galaxie500fb

          I own an Iphone 4s and a Motorola Droid X and the tech guy. The one who likes to tinker and tweak likes the Droid X but the frustrated user of an android based phone likes the reliability and simplistic nature of an Iphone. Currently have the cell service setup on the Iphone and the Droid X is used on wifi. I use them both daily. The droid X is used to search other android forums looking for tips and tweaks. The iphone is used to make the calls... text... run apps that i can`t on my droid. Some apps i prefer to run on one versus the other. I like the bigger screen on the X but enjoy the clarity of the Iphone. Do i have a choice of which is a better platform? Nope. I love them both. 

          • 42. Re: Why don't people like iPhones?
            droidsw

            Kaebfly, I left out one important classifying comment.

             

            I DON'T base my opinions of any person specifically because of the phone they own. What I have noticed is that when a particular co-worker, neighbor, client, etc. is arrogant, obnoxious, stubborn, or unreasonable in general.........many times they most invariably JUST HAPPEN to own iphones.

             

            Bizarre coincidences? My imagination? 

             

            And when the conversation turns to phones, THEN the cultish attitude towards their phone comes out, too.

             

            Lumping you in their group by making the "not surprise you defend them" comment was the expected response when an Android owner makes an observation about iphone users in general and an iphone owner (you) defends them. Tongue-in-cheek. You can't interpret mood or tone in written words, but it was written with no malice.

             

            But back to the topic of "phone conversations".

             

            A co-worker recently changed carriers and left his old iphone3 behind and got an Android (EVO, I think). It was purely for a better family package and the cheap Android phones the carrier was pushing. He has no axe to grind and we never really discussed phones before he told me this. And, no he isn't obnoxious or arrogant, so he falls outside the "general assumptions I make about all people that use iphones".

             

             I asked him today.  "How was the weekend?  Watch any football? How is that Android phone working for you?"

             

            He replied, "It's just OK. I kind of miss my old iphone. This Android phone is just slow, doesn't respond, locks up and I have to reboot it".

             

            THAT is the perfect evaluation of the Android experience (in my opinion).

             

            My point?

             

            I think Android has issues (that is for anothersection of the forum). I think my next phone will probably be iOS. I am NOT TOO PROUD to admit that.

             

            I didn't "come into this section looking to pick a fight". My personal observations are/were that my previous disdain for iphones had nothing to do with the devices themselves, but the people that many times I encounter than JUST HAPPEN to own them.

             

            We aren't writing dissertations that will solve the recession or cure diseases. We are yapping about phones. It's a discussion forum and really shouldn't be taken seriously.

             

             

            • 43. Re: Why don't people like iPhones?
              droidsw

              Tidbits wrote:

              droidsw wrote:
              Kaebfly, did I really have to say that the persons in my two examples constantly belittled every other device but their own?

              I wasn't trying to urinate on their parade, but merely trying to educate them to the facts that other platforms are out there and give some examples of things Android has. These were conversations, not arguments.

              It's difficult to recreate a person's attitude in writing, but take my word for it, in both examples arrogant and obnoxious were adequate descriptions.

              No surprise you defend them. And no, Android owners don't come anywhere near the level of obnoxiousness (if that's a word).

              But that's my opinion and these are my personal observations.

              And no, NO device is perfect. Even more reason that cultish behavior (on either side) is ridiculous. On that, we agree.Ac
              This is false.  I have seen it go both ways. I can honestly say i have been on both sides of the fence.

               

              Tidbits, 6 months ago, I would have agreed with you. Honestly, almost everyone I know that has an Android phone is fed up and disgusted. This "large majority" that never has issues just don't happen to be in my circle of friends and acquaintances.
              • 44. Re: Why don't people like iPhones?
                kaebfly

                droidsw wrote:

                Kaebfly, I left out one important classifying comment.

                 

                I DON'T base my opinions of any person specifically because of the phone they own. What I have noticed is that when a particular co-worker, neighbor, client, etc. is arrogant, obnoxious, stubborn, or unreasonable in general.........many times they most invariably JUST HAPPEN to own iphones.

                 

                Bizarre coincidences? My imagination? 

                 

                And when the conversation turns to phones, THEN the cultish attitude towards their phone comes out, too.

                 

                Lumping you in their group by making the "not surprise you defend them" comment was the expected response when an Android owner makes an observation about iphone users in general and an iphone owner (you) defends them. Tongue-in-cheek. You can't interpret mood or tone in written words, but it was written with no malice.

                 

                But back to the topic of "phone conversations".

                 

                A co-worker recently changed carriers and left his old iphone3 behind and got an Android (EVO, I think). It was purely for a better family package and the cheap Android phones the carrier was pushing. He has no axe to grind and we never really discussed phones before he told me this. And, no he isn't obnoxious or arrogant, so he falls outside the "general assumptions I make about all people that use iphones".

                 

                 I asked him today.  "How was the weekend?  Watch any football? How is that Android phone working for you?"

                 

                He replied, "It's just OK. I kind of miss my old iphone. This Android phone is just slow, doesn't respond, locks up and I have to reboot it".

                 

                THAT is the perfect evaluation of the Android experience (in my opinion).

                 

                My point?

                 

                I think Android has issues (that is for anothersection of the forum). I think my next phone will probably be iOS. I am NOT TOO PROUD to admit that.

                 

                I didn't "come into this section looking to pick a fight". My personal observations are/were that my previous disdain for iphones had nothing to do with the devices themselves, but the people that many times I encounter than JUST HAPPEN to own them.

                 

                We aren't writing dissertations that will solve the recession or cure diseases. We are yapping about phones. It's a discussion forum and really shouldn't be taken seriously.

                 

                 


                I wouldn't call it a bizarre coincidence...I would call it a fact that the iPhone is a popular phone...even among the most annoying people. The only thing I can come up with in your instance is...you just happen to know or come in contact with a lot of people that fall in the descriptions you give them.

                 

                 And sorry...but continuing to try and claim using tongue and cheek references and claiming it is the expected response while pointing out that tone can not be determined easily in written word just seems like the easy way to avoid admitting that you were making a jab (tongue and cheek or not) directed at me when saying that of course I, an iPhone user  would defend the iPhone users you experienced negative attitudes from. If you meant it with no malice, ok that's great. But since you seem to have a clear understanding that certain emotions can't be easily determined in the written word why would you continue to attempt to convey something you stated yourself can't be easily determined by anyone else? The point is pretty simple...the strength of your written word alone carries a lot of weight when the words are the only thing that can be seen. You have to assume that anything you write needs to clearly convey what you are saying because no one can see your facial expression as they read it...no one can hear your tone of voice...so the words you choose are the only thing between you and your intended message. Like you said...you left out one important classifying comment. One wrong word can change the meaning of an entire story.

                 

                 Now I own the fact that I tend to get very wordy with my responses. It's never because I take any of this too seriously. It's because I work with words a lot...so out of habit I explain everything (or try to) that I am trying to convey when writing. Without thinking I automatically try to make sure I clearly identify what I'm saying, who I'm saying it to, why I'm saying it...and wrap it all up with a summary to reiterate what I said lol.

                 

                • 45. Re: Why don't people like iPhones?
                  droidsw
                  When the time comes to choose my next phone, of course my decision won't be influenced by who else owns a particular phone.

                  The OP asked why people don't like iphones. I gave my experiences how a lot of people I've come in contact with that own them are (to prevent the inevitable edit) "knuckleheads" and how THAT has molded my opinion of the phone.

                  Obviously, they all had more in common than the cell phone they happen to own. And yes, with so many iphones out there, odds are they will end up in the hands of a lot of knuckleheads.

                  True, some Android owners are, no doubt, knuckleheads too and some may even act like cult members. That just hasn't been my experience.

                  "Wordy" is a good thing, by the way.
                  • 46. Re: Why don't people like iPhones?
                    21stNow

                    This was an interesting topic to me.  If I think about the iPhone, I can't say that I dislike it, but I'm not passionate about it.  The question is, why?  I would say that a great part of it is that I have something else to compare it to, and I do like Android better. 

                     

                    The one thing that I can point to as being different between iOS and Android is having to use iTunes to manage an iPhone.  Why don't I like iTunes?  I'm struggling to remember.  Even though I own an iPhone, I haven't used iTunes in about a year because I found phone management even more frustrating than music management. 

                     

                    I was fascinated by computer jukeboxes over 10 years ago.  I can't remember the first one that I used.  I then went to RealJukebox.  I think I moved to another one, then MusicMatch Jukebox (my favorite of all time).  I tried Yahoo! Jukebox briefly, and didn't like it.  Somewhere in this time (~2005?), I tried iTunes.  I didn't own any Apple products, and this slowed me down on buying an iPod.  I ended up getting a Creative mp3 player, but was assigned the task of managing someone else's iPod on my computer.  Boy, was I glad that I didn't buy an iPod.  I wanted to give up on putting music on that iPod, but it belonged to a child and I couldn't take her look of disappointment easily (sucker, I know!).  I also didn't like the iTunes jukebox as a music player.  Not having a stop button was weird to me, and setting up playlists on the fly was not as fluid as it was in MusicMatch Jukebox.  I now use Windows Media Player for most things.

                     

                    Android phones and WMP mix well.  Since I also use WMP to manage my mp3 player, it's easier for me not to have to go back and forth between WMP and iTunes for music files.  I'm tired of making sure songs are in both places.

                     

                    Widgets are very useful to me, and I wonder how I lived without them for my entire life!  Also, I prefer touchscreen phones.  But, I need choices in keyboards.  Word tracing is better for me than using physical keyboards and definitely the touch/tap onscreen keyboards.  Because I don't have a choice on an iPhone, I don't do any text entry on that phone.

                     

                    The main thing that I like about an iPhone is that the phone part just works.  Voice dialing via a Bluetooth headset is also easier on an iPhone.  I think it's sad that I basically use it as a phone only, but the 3.5 inch screen feels so small now to really use it to surf the web or read emails.

                     

                    OK, my self-examination is over for the hour.  Hopefully, you all don't charge high rates to listen to my inner thoughts!

                     

                    • 47. Re: Why don't people like iPhones?
                      mikedamirault

                      21stNow wrote:

                      This was an interesting topic to me.  If I think about the iPhone, I can't say that I dislike it, but I'm not passionate about it.  The question is, why?  I would say that a great part of it is that I have something else to compare it to, and I do like Android better. 

                       

                      The one thing that I can point to as being different between iOS and Android is having to use iTunes to manage an iPhone.  Why don't I like iTunes?  I'm struggling to remember.  Even though I own an iPhone, I haven't used iTunes in about a year because I found phone management even more frustrating than music management. 

                       

                      I was fascinated by computer jukeboxes over 10 years ago.  I can't remember the first one that I used.  I then went to RealJukebox.  I think I moved to another one, then MusicMatch Jukebox (my favorite of all time).  I tried Yahoo! Jukebox briefly, and didn't like it.  Somewhere in this time (~2005?), I tried iTunes.  I didn't own any Apple products, and this slowed me down on buying an iPod.  I ended up getting a Creative mp3 player, but was assigned the task of managing someone else's iPod on my computer.  Boy, was I glad that I didn't buy an iPod.  I wanted to give up on putting music on that iPod, but it belonged to a child and I couldn't take her look of disappointment easily (sucker, I know!).  I also didn't like the iTunes jukebox as a music player.  Not having a stop button was weird to me, and setting up playlists on the fly was not as fluid as it was in MusicMatch Jukebox.  I now use Windows Media Player for most things.

                       

                      Android phones and WMP mix well.  Since I also use WMP to manage my mp3 player, it's easier for me not to have to go back and forth between WMP and iTunes for music files.  I'm tired of making sure songs are in both places.

                       

                      Widgets are very useful to me, and I wonder how I lived without them for my entire life!  Also, I prefer touchscreen phones.  But, I need choices in keyboards.  Word tracing is better for me than using physical keyboards and definitely the touch/tap onscreen keyboards.  Because I don't have a choice on an iPhone, I don't do any text entry on that phone.

                       

                      The main thing that I like about an iPhone is that the phone part just works.  Voice dialing via a Bluetooth headset is also easier on an iPhone.  I think it's sad that I basically use it as a phone only, but the 3.5 inch screen feels so small now to really use it to surf the web or read emails.

                       

                      OK, my self-examination is over for the hour.  Hopefully, you all don't charge high rates to listen to my inner thoughts!

                       


                      I guess to each his own, in my experience (and from people I know) it's the complete opposite

                       

                      My first MP3 player was some cheap player I got as a prize from Dave & Busters (can't remember the brand), being a cheap MP3 player (pretty much just flash storage that could play MP3 files, and I think also WMA files saved to it), I liked the simplicity if just being able to drag and drop MP3 files to the player, but after a while, the bad sound quality and minor bugs I had with it, I just stopped using it and looked into getting an iPod

                       

                      During the same time that I was thinking about getting an iPod (nano), my nephew (who is only slightly younger than I am, but not by much) thought that the iPod was garbage, and wanted to get a Sansa Media Player instead (being that the Sansa could play video, but the iPod nano couldn't unless it was jailbroken), when I got the iPod, I had very little to no problems with it, and actually grown to love it, after a while (like a couple of months later), I asked my nephew how his Sansa was, and he literally said (no joke) "Oh, I got rid of that piece of s**t":smileyvery-happy:, and guess what he got as a replacement?  An iPod nano, which he uses to this very day

                       

                      As for putting music on the iPod, I have never had any issues (either music from iTunes' music store or from other sources), it was as simple as a drag and drop to where the iPod shows up in iTunes

                      • 48. Re: Why don't people like iPhones?
                        Elitist_Jerk

                        some people dont like iphones for the same reason some people like iphones. its an iphone.

                         

                        oru whole culture is about this vs that.. who cares, use your phone for what you need it for

                        • 49. Re: Why don't people like iPhones?
                          21stNow

                          @mike, I actually like Sandisk players even more than my Creative player.

                           

                          The problem that came up with the iPod that I was trying to manage was that the girl had music from another computer on her iPod.  Back then, iPods defaulted to only being used with one computer.  You could change this setting somewhere, using iTunes, but it was frustrating to find out how to do it.  Once I changed that setting, transferring the music was easy. 

                           

                          I have bought many mp3 players over the years to use for different purposes.  I have been satisfied with Creative and Sandisk, as they served the intended purpose well.  Creative's human customer support is pretty bad, but the products are good.  To this day, I haven't bought an iPod.

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