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      • 10. Re: Verizon iPhone 4S SIM UNLOCK Tutorial
        gerelee

        newhavenmaven wrote:

        Thanks. I hope you are right and that they don't change their minds about this.  Is there somewhere official---like on the Verizon Web Site--that has the policy written out about unlocking after 60 days?  The links you included quoted a Verizon PR person, but were on non-Verizon sites. Since this matters a lot to us---we are only switching to Verizon to take advantage of this unlocking policy--I'ld feel better seeing it directly on a Verizon page.....



        i can't give you links to prove that they will unlock the phone, but i DID talk to them on the phone today and they WILL unlock a phone ... they did not ask me any questions, so i imagine they checked to make sure i met the eligibility requirements while i was on the phone.

        • 11. Re: Verizon iPhone 4S SIM UNLOCK Tutorial
          silver6055

          gerelee wrote:

          newhavenmaven wrote:

          Thanks. I hope you are right and that they don't change their minds about this.  Is there somewhere official---like on the Verizon Web Site--that has the policy written out about unlocking after 60 days?  The links you included quoted a Verizon PR person, but were on non-Verizon sites. Since this matters a lot to us---we are only switching to Verizon to take advantage of this unlocking policy--I'ld feel better seeing it directly on a Verizon page.....


          Well, the link the OP posted (the link for "Requirements) goes to http://community.vzw.com/t5/DROID-DROID-2-by-Motorola/Unlocking-Droid-2-Global/m-p/461632/message-uid/461632/highlight/true#U461632

           

          and this is a Verizon Wireless employee confirming the general unlock policy on a verizon controlled site.  As this is old, it's not the iPhone of course, but given the weight of all the posted evidence I'm not sure exactly what you want. 

           

          As none of this contractual, it is subject to change, so there is risk, but the fact that a Verizon PR person says something is actually stronger than some statement appearing on a site in my opinion, it makes it much harder to climb down when they are on the record.

           

          • 12. Re: Verizon iPhone 4S SIM UNLOCK Tutorial
            swedegirl

            Yes Im sitting in the US as Im doing this, so this means that the SIM is unlocked for all carriers even in the US....;==)

            • 13. Re: Verizon iPhone 4S SIM UNLOCK Tutorial
              niteriderxp
              Swedegirl have you tried an AT&T or T-Mobile SIM in your phone? Did the phone go through an activation process and ask for WiFi when you inserted a Swedish SIM? Hmm, wish I could find the Cosmote SIM I got in Greece a while ago. Though it may not work anymore anyway, its been three years.
              • 14. Re: Verizon iPhone 4S SIM UNLOCK Tutorial
                willzzz88

                Everyone,

                 

                1. There is a DIFFERENCE with inserting a DIRECT US DOMESTIC SIM card +1 US subset routing (AT&T and T-Mobile) and inserting a foriegn (+X other than +1 US subset, e.g. Canada/Carribean and non +1) routing.

                 

                2. Of course once the phone is UNLOCKED and the person inserts a FORIEGN SIM card activated with international roaming (e.g. Europe/Asia/Latin America/Middle East) on the foriegn provider Apple/iTunes/Verizon is authenticating the FORIEGN SIM card, contacting the local networks list in the USA (AT&T and T-Mobile), sending a global roam query to a authentication provioder GRX/IPX/CRX cluster in NYC/Washington/Miami etc etc and other places where there are massive data-centers, foriegn provider sees AT&T or T-Mobile as partners, in this case "T-Mobile USA", in your case because it doesn't have the AWS bands of 3G for T-mo (but does for AT&T) it connects to T-Mobile, phone sends authentication details of foriegn SIM card and starts roaming INTERNATIONALLY INSIDE THE USA DOMESTICALLY on a FORIEGN SIM CARD!

                 

                So your European +44 number is now active roaming on AT&T or T_Mobile on a unlocked VZW phone INSIDE the USA!

                 

                As you said all outgoing/incoming calls, SMS and provider data profile (this stuff is ALL VIRTUALIZED SOFTWARE NOW!) is using the EU number but physically in the USA roaming on VZW competitors...

                 

                Native AT&T or T_Mobile SIM card with NATIVE +1 USA number unlocked on VZW!? I doubt it... Maybe that is possible.

                 

                Actually VZW is getting VERY smart for Fortune 500 customers... The people that want this are business and personal customers and the MORE FREEDOM you give me the MORE REVENUE OPPORTUNITY that VZW can simply SELL THEIR SUPERIOR SERVICE/NETEWORK!!!

                • 15. Re: Verizon iPhone 4S SIM UNLOCK Tutorial
                  willzzz88

                  Regarding the T_Mobile, I mean't your EU roaming partner in the US is T-Mobile... and it's 2G...

                   

                  If it was a more post-paid business plan it would be with AT&T and 3G...

                   

                   

                  • 16. Re: Verizon iPhone 4S SIM UNLOCK Tutorial
                    willzzz88

                    http://gizmodo.com/5850241/att-iphone-4s-already-coming-unlocked-when-you-buy-off+contract

                     

                    Apple is getting VERY smart...

                     

                    Verizon wants international roaming revenue in-bound on their network IN THE USA in the future on their LTE network (this makes AT&T and T-mobile like $500 Million+ a year onto their quarterly revenue)...

                     

                    Verizon is in the process with LTE overlaying their network with a CDMA + GSM/LTE hybrid network so they can have ONE simplified network integrated into a whole...

                     

                    It's all about revenue $$$ people...

                    • 17. Re: Verizon iPhone 4S SIM UNLOCK Tutorial
                      JohnB_VZW

                      Thank you SGMD1 for your input regarding the Verizon iPhone 4S SIM unlock procedure. You are correct, we will unlock the SIM for the iPhone 4S as long as the qualifications are met as you stated in your post. To qualify for 3G SIM Unlock, a customer must meet the following requirements:

                       

                      1. Must be a Verizon Wireless customer. Verizon Wireless only unlocks devices for Verizon Wireless customers.

                      2. The device being unlocked must be active on a Verizon Wireless line of service. *Exception: If you have upgraded to a new device, the previous global device that was on the line of service can have a 3G SIM Unlock processed.

                      3. The line of service must be active at least 60 days.

                      4. The line of service must be in good standing for the past 60 days.

                      5. You may only have one 3G SIM Unlock per line every 10 months.

                       

                      *Note: Your manufacturer's device warranty is not affected by a 3G SIM unlock as long as you remain with Verizon Wireless.

                       

                      If you need to have your SIM unlocked on your iPhone 4S please contact our Global Support team at 800-711-8300 to start the process.

                       

                      I trust this information has been helpful.

                      • 18. Re: Verizon iPhone 4S SIM UNLOCK Tutorial
                        gerelee

                        global support person told me that it would NOT work with an at&t sim ... though the first ones that i spoke with told me that it would .. i DO know that so far it's certainly not working with my at&t sim.

                        • 19. Re: Verizon iPhone 4S SIM UNLOCK Tutorial
                          21stNow

                          gerelee wrote:

                          global support person told me that it would NOT work with an at&t sim ... though the first ones that i spoke with told me that it would .. i DO know that so far it's certainly not working with my at&t sim.


                          Have you already unlocked your phone gerelee?

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